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Today, A proposed amendment to the Constitution.. Abolishing the Electoral College!
GovTrack: Senate Record: ^

Posted on 01/12/2009 12:00:00 PM PST by thatjoeguy

S.J. Res. 4. A joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the President and Vice President of the United States; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Excerpt: "S.J. Res. 4"

(Excerpt) Read more at govtrack.us ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege
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To: yorkie01
The liberal left, marxists and socialists centered in our big cities would be the centers of all vote getting and fraud. Conservatism would die on the vine.

Conservatism wouldn't die. Instead, the USA would break up, and leave conservatism precious little to conserve.

21 posted on 01/12/2009 12:31:08 PM PST by thulldud (All your rumor are mong to us.)
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To: avacado
Two electors selected on a statewide basis (winner of the state), one elector selected per congressional district. It has worked flawlessly in Maine and Nebraska ever since it was implemented. Shenanigans of the St. Louis/Cleveland/Philadelphia variety are unknown in Omaha and Portland.
22 posted on 01/12/2009 12:31:38 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
" Two electors selected on a statewide basis (winner of the state), one elector selected per congressional district. "

I don't quite get it? Two electors on a statewide basis? What's that actually mean? And how does that effect the one elector selected per congressional district?

23 posted on 01/12/2009 12:38:02 PM PST by avacado
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To: thatjoeguy

The Communization of America continues under total Socialist Demokratik Politburo dictatorship.

This is nothing more than their quest for total dictatorial power over the Proletariat.

Welcome to the Union of Socialist States of America, formerly the land of the free.


24 posted on 01/12/2009 12:40:13 PM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Never mind. I just went and read up on it. I like that idea! It would definitely take care of the Philly issue.


25 posted on 01/12/2009 12:41:15 PM PST by avacado
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To: avacado

Not completely. The Philly fraud machine could still stealthe two electors awarded for the entire state, but that is a major improvement over stealing all 21. The 6 or so from the Philly area would be won fairly anyway.


26 posted on 01/12/2009 12:47:33 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: geo40xyz

And please add Cannot Use Park Bench as Valid Address :)

and

All Election Polls must have the same # of party representatives manning the station


27 posted on 01/12/2009 12:53:19 PM PST by Lilpug15 (Obama: "They Need More Arabic Translators in Afghanistan...")
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To: AuntB

Someone in the Senate needs to remind Nelson that the U.S.A. is a Republic, not a Democracy.


29 posted on 01/12/2009 1:14:33 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: thatjoeguy

Thirteen States against will be enough to kill this, and I’m sure there’ll be more than that.


30 posted on 01/12/2009 1:26:07 PM PST by RonF
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To: Publius6961

“Not a prayer!”

Really? I believe they said that about both William Jefferson Clinton becoming President. Same about Obama, regardless of his not being a citizen.


31 posted on 01/12/2009 1:49:50 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: thatjoeguy

Any idiot that would vote for this needs to be run out of office.


32 posted on 01/12/2009 2:49:37 PM PST by smokingfrog (Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public.)
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To: thatjoeguy

A number of moron states have recently enacted legislation that gives their electoral votes to whoever is ahead popular vote for the whole country. This effectively disenfranchises all the citizens of those states.


33 posted on 01/12/2009 2:55:32 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: thatjoeguy

Doesn’t or hasn’t this legislation been introduced for the previous few Congresses?.... Nothing has happenend and I see no reason that it would become law since an amendment would require ratification by the states. The smaller states aren’t going to give up their power to influence the choice of President/VP to the major population centers.


34 posted on 01/12/2009 3:00:06 PM PST by deport
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To: Vigilanteman
If you notice the folks running for President don't spend much time in Maine or Oregon. They have succeeded in making their statewide vote mean-—nothing.
35 posted on 01/12/2009 3:21:16 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Wrong. Oba Mao actually opened an office and campaigned hard in Nebraska for the one electoral vote in play (Omaha). McCain also thought he had a shot at Maine until the economy went kerplop, forcing his campaign to move to more competitive states.


36 posted on 01/12/2009 4:17:22 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: ryan71

Actually a term limit amendment was introduced today as well but we all know where that one is going to go.

JB


37 posted on 01/12/2009 4:58:47 PM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: thatjoeguy

It would take 3/4 of the states to ratify such an Amendment to the Constitution, and I don’t think it could be done with this kind of an Amendment...


38 posted on 01/12/2009 7:32:48 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: thatjoeguy

Oh..., one more thing..., here too. If you ever see a Constitutional Amendment is going to go through that you don’t approve of and don’t like — then *always* make sure it has a “time limit” attached to the Amendment, so that if it doesn’t get approved in (let’s say) 7 years, then it dies. Usually Congress does that, but it hasn’t done it on some in the past.

In fact, one Amendment got passed after two hundred years passed by... hoo-boy!


39 posted on 01/12/2009 7:34:31 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Publius
This has been introduced every year since 2001. It’s not going anywhere.

Exactly. It takes thirteen states to kill an amendment, surely the smallest fifteen will be happy to do just that.

40 posted on 01/12/2009 8:15:11 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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