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Obama Calls for 'Grand Bargain' on Economy: 'Everybody's Going to Have to Give'
ABC News ^ | January 10, 2009 | George Stephanopoulos

Posted on 01/10/2009 9:10:12 PM PST by stevie_d_64

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To: Tublecane
How about, “Everyone’s going to have to save,” or, “Everyone’s going to have to produce”? Why does the money have to pass through the central government’s hands for recovery to come?

Italians got tired of tithing disproportionately to their government. Much of their economy went underground. The "unemployment rate" is alarmingly high yet many families own two homes. Then there is the barter option....

101 posted on 01/11/2009 5:07:05 AM PST by SisterK (pop culture is the opiate of the people)
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To: stevie_d_64

I guess people that vote for democrats need a reminder every once in a while how they were promised the moon, and in the end, they get nothing but higher taxes, less security, and less liberty.

just sad


102 posted on 01/11/2009 5:17:34 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: gigster

The Borg from Star Trek. Resistance is futile (NOT).

Sniper63


103 posted on 01/11/2009 5:50:42 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: mojitojoe

All we got in this election is another minority family living in government housing.

Sniper63


104 posted on 01/11/2009 5:50:43 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: stevie_d_64

“Everybody’s going to have to give. Everybody’s going to have to have some skin in the game,” Obama said.

Uh I am giving, its called taxes you moron. How about all those who don’t pay taxes yet are reaping the benefits of us who do pay taxes?

Curious, will that change?

JB


105 posted on 01/11/2009 6:02:42 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: stevie_d_64

‘Everybody’s Going to Have to Give’

.....yeah and you’re gonna see tax evasion like this country has never seen before....


106 posted on 01/11/2009 6:08:00 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: stevie_d_64

Now we know why he appointed Hitlery to his team.

“We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

PS. Reading Atlas Shrugged now, and it amazes me how good Ayn Rand called it.


107 posted on 01/11/2009 6:13:05 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: thatjoeguy
Curious, will that change?

I doubt it. The article didn't mention the phrase "give up"..

108 posted on 01/11/2009 6:18:41 AM PST by EVO X
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To: mamelukesabre
what? Are you in a parallel universe?

What inflation adjustments? We are in a period of DEFLATION mr smartypants. That means all social security payments will be adjusted DOWN, unless they chop the adjustments.

I don't know about you, but I intend to outlive the current economic difficulties.

All of the "cures" I see are highly inflationary. In the medium-long term there will be inflation. This is not parallel universe thinking, it is thinking beyond this year and next. If Bambi reduces SS benefits, or takes out the automatic inflation adjustment, it will have consequences for many, many years.

109 posted on 01/11/2009 7:02:43 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: TheBattman

Obamasama grew up in Chicago politics where ya’ gotta’ pay to play!


110 posted on 01/11/2009 7:46:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: CurlyDave; mamelukesabre
Deflation is a "macroeconomic" phenomenon. You can actually have deflation with an increasing cost of living. Social Security and federal government retirements have a "cost of living" clause, not a "deflation" clause.

I know this is a bit tricky to understand but you'll all find out.

Now, about the Reagan administration's proposal to balance the federal budget with a $100 co-payment on federal employee's medical insurance, it was actually something like $120.

Didn't do a doggone thing, but I do remember the money. That was an INFLATIONARY period and we had two babies around the house, and the power bill had just gone up.

Definitely remember that one.

111 posted on 01/11/2009 7:50:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: stevie_d_64
"Everybody’s going to have to give. Everybody’s going to have to have some skin in the game," Obama said.

The audacity of arrogance.
Forced socialism.
National Socialism.
How nice.

Finally, an explanation of "Change we can believe in."

112 posted on 01/11/2009 8:05:10 AM PST by XR7
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To: Mad Dawg
"Does that include Congress giving back their automatic pay raises?"

Or how about all the recipients of the bail-out money...what do they have to give???

113 posted on 01/11/2009 8:13:40 AM PST by NTegraT (Ready to RULE on Day One.)
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To: Perdogg

His plan is to destroy America and hand it over to his Muslim brothers.


114 posted on 01/11/2009 8:13:53 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: stevie_d_64
Does this mean welfare payments, food stamps and the EITC are going to be cut?

I didn't think so.

115 posted on 01/11/2009 8:25:35 AM PST by Gritty (Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - Michelle Obama)
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To: Unknowing
We may still have a slim 4-year window of heading off the total take over of the Marxists.

There are signs that the obamination's shine is already wearing thin, even within the party...and he hasn't even been crowned yet. (I wonder if he'll follow Napoleon's lead, and crown himself?)

As more and more of the Sheeple stand a bit slack-jawed at his appointments (so diatmetricaslly opposite what they were led to believe - they didn't realize his 'change' meant change back to the Clintonista Regime,) and so many fall to or are enveloped in scandal.

In addition, there are his protocol faux pas's that will become more evident - could be some embarrassing International incidents as well.

The suit without an emperor is not going to be well respected nor tolerated with world leaders. They will chew him up and throw him to the wolves.

He's playing with the big boys now. Neither the tactics of the Chicago street thug nor the cesspool Chicago political machine are going to play on the national/world scene.

It seems that facade is slipping and people are realizing this panty 'waste' is in way over his head. He is indeed, to use his own description: "a mutt." (The stark difference of character and experience - and love of our country - stood out loud and clear yesterday as the nation watched the ceremony for the launching of the U.S.S. George H.W. Bush. And people realize there will never be a H.S.S. anything for Clinton or Obama - and the reasons are blatantly clear.)

"Atlas Shrugged" was due out last spring. I was hoping it would wake up enough Sheeple as to how this country has been led down the Marxist path - and who the players are - how to recognize them.

It didn't happen - but it's supposed to be aired, I believe by NBC?) this year as a mini-series - really the only way it could be covered. If so, just maybe the Sheeple will be able to see past the polish that is beginning to tarnish, and "get a clue!"

Then we should push to have "Fountainhead" re-shown or at least urge the Sheeple to rent it and watch it...that shows just how the corrupt press can sway the masses...if the Sheeple finally get that message, maybe, just maybe, we can pull this country back from the abyss. Meanwhile, hopefully, the pubbie governors will work hard towards shoring up the individual states as to their Constitutional Rights, which could go a long way towards fending off the takeover.

118 posted on 01/11/2009 8:47:45 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: stevie_d_64
We have just had a Marxist coup d'etat
and the DBM is just getting a glimpse
and they are confused.
James 5:1 Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you.

James 5:2 Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten.

James 5:3 Your gold and your silver have rusted;

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

119 posted on 01/11/2009 8:53:47 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: SisterK

There is a clip of Obama back in 2002 (iirc) in which he expresses surprise that the Supremes didn’t re-write the constitution to include “redistribution of wealth” when they handed down Brown vs Board of Education.

There are other subtle hints that he’s a communist, as well.

That’s OK as long as the checks and balances continue to work, but once he starts acting like a “ruler” and going around the constitution we will be in trouble. Like if he starts to give orders to executive branch agencies before the electoral votes are accepted by the joint congress, for example, and the agencies respond positively.


120 posted on 01/11/2009 9:01:32 AM PST by DBrow
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