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To: AmericanVictory
"The only document that has been shown does not say that."

I assume you are talking about it saying he was born in Honolulu here. It does say that.

"And, as quite a number from Hawaii have explained here, COLB’s were issued to those who had had a child outside of Hawaii in the preceding year. One is not proof of being born in Hawaii according to those who live there and are familiar with its laws and procedures. Are you familiar with them?"

The birth certificates are legal proof of the facts of birth contained on them. It says so right on the certificate. Yes, I am aware of the claims that a foreign born child can get a birth certificate from Hawaii, but those claims have referred to laws allowing adopting parents to get certificates. And nobody has produced anything that says Hawaii will lie on those certificates and say the child was born in Honolulu. So in the end these claims are suspect and unproven. The idea on its face should cause skepticism.

497 posted on 01/12/2009 6:17:12 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

Can you produce a copy of the document that proves the point that you are making?


593 posted on 01/13/2009 7:53:50 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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