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To: gaijin
"CNN will go away LONG before Sarah Palin goes away, yep..!"

CNN, the NYT, MSNBC, WAPO aren't going anywhere. There are too many Republicans that have embraced this mythology that the establishment media is in it's death throws.

If we don't start picking candidates that can comport themselves in an articulate manner with the mainstream media, but especially television interviewers, then the GOP will be wondering the desert for years to come.

Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair (a man and a magazine I can't personally stand), said it best...

"Republicans seem to pick candidates that speak English as a second language."

Perception is reality and as long as we have candidates that are perceived as unintelligent, inarticulate and incompetent, that is what our reality will be.

33 posted on 01/04/2009 12:21:19 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
Personally I think there are too many Republicans that think they need face time with CNN, MSNBC..etc.

Even when they do it....they don't set the ground rules. And thats just dumb. The MSM / DBM is NEVER going to "like" them...and they need to quit trying to get them to.

Until they figure this out....they will remain the "stupid party"

44 posted on 01/04/2009 12:27:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots...............)
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To: Big_Monkey
If we don't start picking candidates that can comport themselves in an articulate manner with the mainstream media, but especially television interviewers, then the GOP will be wondering the desert for years to come.

What if we picked a candidate who recognized the MSM as our enemy and chose to openly go to war with them?

Would there not be some benefits? After all, polls reveal over 80% of the public doesn't trust the media to tell the truth. Journalists are now held in lower regard than lawyers.

The base would doubtless cheer them on. The vast middle would grant the validity of their argument. The neurotic MSM might even try to over-compensate by giving favorable coverage to the conservative candidate.

O.K., I wouldn't want to count on that last speculation. But the Republican party and Republican candidates must ask themselves if continuing to play footsie with the media offers any benefit.

There's something liberating about calling a steaming pile of crap a steaming pile of crap...

55 posted on 01/04/2009 12:37:38 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Big_Monkey
Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair (a man and a magazine I can't personally stand), said it best... "Republicans seem to pick candidates that speak English as a second language."

Give me a break. Friggin stuttering morons like Obama, Biden and Kennedy are being covered and carried by the lamestream media. Bush and Palin get blasted as neanderthals. And somehow you agree with the libs that it's us who need to pick someone articulate?

Perception is reality and as long as we have candidates that are perceived as unintelligent, inarticulate and incompetent, that is what our reality will be.

The perception is not created by the candidates, but by the media. We need to bypass, fight and discredit the media. Don't play their games. Don't give interviews with hacks like Couricky and Glibson. Speak directly with the people. Innovation and creativity are needed. We need candidates that will go past the media, not someone who goes with them. The Alphabet networks are Democrat territory. Palin should been introduced through FOX, talkradio and other friendly territory. You can forget about any conservative going unassaulted through ABCNNBC.

56 posted on 01/04/2009 12:39:07 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: Big_Monkey

Our candidate this year was a guy who has spent more time being interviewed on TV than any politician currently alive. He was a guy who has spent more time on the Sunday shows than any politician currently alive. He was a guy who had been a favorite of the media establishment for years and had spent his entire career sucking up to them for just the moment when he’d be the nominee and they’d support him. He was as comfortable and articulate as anyone on TV.

Real good it did him or us.

As for Gov Palin, while her interview with Couric did have some bad moments, on the whole she did fine. She was plenty articulate and if you’ve seen more than one interview of her you’d see she did fine. It’s not like she said “uh” every two seconds like Obama always does. Talk about articulate and polished. Unfortunately A)the media wanted him to win so they downplayed all that and B)they’re afraid to get tough on a black guy so they lay off

Do you really think if she had told Katie Couric that she reads The Economist, Foreign Affairs magazine, and the CIA World Factbook to keep up with what’s happening as opposed to saying “I read lots of things from all different sources”, even one vote would have changed?

If she had named 1 or 2 Supreme Court cases by names that 99.9% of voters have no idea about instead of saying the ones that encroach on state and local authority that even one vote would have changed?

It’s also a bit tougher when every on air talent and reporter is so blatantly in the tank for the other side and wants more than anything for him to win and would literally do anything to ensure that happens. I don’t care how good you are on TV.

It was the total and utter collapse of the economy from the middle of September through to election day that decided things, not how anyone did or did not do on TV interviews.

Given that the one Repulican who’s won a Presidential election in the past 20 years is about as inarticulate as they come, I don’t think it’s really that big of a deal.


59 posted on 01/04/2009 12:41:31 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Big_Monkey
What complete nonsense.

CNN works for the UnAmerican Democrat Party...as do the rest of the press.

Of course they will work to define perceptions.

And conservatives picking Harvard grads who don't drop their g's, will do nothing to change that fact.

Just watch a Senate Judicial Hearing, and see how our "smart and articulate" nominees have their reputations and careers destroyed.

Do not choose candidates to satisfy the MSM....it's like battered woman syndrome....you will never do enough to stem their wrath.

76 posted on 01/04/2009 12:54:58 PM PST by roses of sharon ("No socialist system can be established without a political police.", Churchill -1945)
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To: Big_Monkey
If we don't start picking candidates that can comport themselves in an articulate manner with the mainstream media, but especially television interviewers, then the GOP will be wondering the desert for years to come.

You recommend that we pick candidates for their star power rather than their substance. That sounds good. Lets see, we have a few actors, perhaps Arnold is your ideal.

136 posted on 01/04/2009 4:59:05 PM PST by dalight
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