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To: dalight
"You recommend that we pick candidates for their star power rather than their substance. That sounds good. Lets see, we have a few actors, perhaps Arnold is your ideal."

I've got no idea how you glean that from my posts. I would like for the GOP to start picking candidates that don't come across as inarticulate, uninformed, inexperienced rubes that have never been out of the country.

As for Sarah Palin's substance, can you point to one book or article that she's published? Can you point to a speech, or conference where's she's presented well-reasoned and informed ideas about pressing domestic US policy? Can you cite a single instance where's she been even quoted about international affairs, let alone publish anything on the topic? She has demonstrated ZERO substance, only style that is appreciated by a minority of Americans.

When Ronald W. Reagan ran for President the first time, he had volumes of material, oral and written that addressed the most pressing, relevant topics of the day. Sarah Palin had none of the this before John McCain chose her as his running mate.

Somehow, we've reached a point in our party where the only people that can get the nomination and keep the support of the "base" are people that believe in a literal bible (despite volumes of empirical science), attend an "acceptable" church and are folksy to the point of irritation. This is not a recipe for success on a national ticket.

When those of us expect our candidates to be experts in the subject matters that are critical to running the world's only superpower, we get labeled RINO's, star-chasers and eletist. Again, that plays well to the base of 29%, but it will never win another national election.

140 posted on 01/04/2009 5:31:27 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
As for Sarah Palin's substance, can you point to one book or article that she's published? Can you point to a speech, or conference where's she's presented well-reasoned and informed ideas about pressing domestic US policy? Can you cite a single instance where's she been even quoted about international affairs, let alone publish anything on the topic? She has demonstrated ZERO substance, only style that is appreciated by a minority of Americans.

You and I have a very different idea of the meaning of substance. No she isn't a university professor but if she was, then she would be a liberal. If you have a politician that meets your criteria and is electable to.. support em.. and quit whining about what would be perfect. The perfect is the enemy of the good and the effective.

Otherwise get a life. Sarah is as close to a "Rock Star" that the Republican party has come up with in 20 years and she doesn't make it for you, you are hopeless.

I really need to check but my guess is that you are Huckabee supporter, but that is a wild guess. Huck blew it in this last election, he plays for keeps long after winning isn't possible and there are bad feelings to last for a generation about his behavior.

Romney was the essence of grace, and he was betrayed by circumstances and Huckabee was completely effective at making him unelectable. Republican primaries are often that way, we kill each other in the primary and the bloody hulk left standing is expected to win the General.

These battles are so distructive it can take years to recover. Ohio is in such a cycle. Ken Blackwell split the Ohio Republican party in his run for Governor, and then didn't have the funds left or the organization to rebuild in time for the General.

Worse, when he lost, the old guard he defeated tried to re-assert control leaving the people who double lost the primary and the general in place. Ohio is still trying to recover.

The Conservative electorate is not effective at insisting that no double standard applies. Instead, we offer this as a selling point, that we are not as evil and corrupt as the Dems. But, this leaves evil and corrupt Dems to use money and political power to corrupt all. No double standard. Hound the corrupt bastards out.. that needs to be the call.. and it is a target rich environment.

If MSM is dying for not being able to tell the truth, why isn't a competitor springing up like FOX to make the money MSM is turning away?

Nevertheless, finding MSM gushable Republicans requires you to put forward Democrats in Republican clothes. Until the news room judges based on facts rather than their own political aspirations there is no Republican articulate and clean enough to meet their impossibly high standard.

141 posted on 01/04/2009 5:50:57 PM PST by dalight
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To: Big_Monkey
As for Sarah Palin's substance, can you point to one book or article that she's published? Can you point to a speech, or conference where's she's presented well-reasoned and informed ideas about pressing domestic US policy? Can you cite a single instance where's she been even quoted about international affairs, let alone publish anything on the topic? She has demonstrated ZERO substance, only style that is appreciated by a minority of Americans.

By this standard, Al Gore would be a man of great substance due to his writings on the myth of global warming. I don't disagree that she needs to get her ideas out to the general public in an articulate manner, but the unit of measure of "substance" isn't merely being a published author.

Also, consider that many of her articulations on significant subjects will never see the light of day, given our media's leftist tilt.

143 posted on 01/04/2009 6:06:26 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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