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To: dascallie

I seriously doubt anything will come of this, but it does point out the opposite side of a coin that should no longer exist. There is no doubt that Obama was born to a natural born, American citizen mother. Even though I care nothing for him, he did grow up American with a natural born American parent and maternal grandparents caring for him, mostly in Hawaii.

But, if Obama were the child of two foreign nationals, the mother of whom managed to enter the US illegally and have her child in a US hospital at taxpayer expense, well, that baby would be a “natural born citizen” and eligible for all rights due a natural born American citizen, including the right to run for president.

This notion that being born on US soil to parents of any background makes one a “natural born citizen”, and being born to American citizens outside the US throws one’s citizenship into question, well, that is something that needed to be corrected decades ago, and it now makes it almost impossible for us to enforce any sane immigration policy, or control who can enter this nation and stay.


85 posted on 01/03/2009 7:44:55 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Well, as I have said, eligibility or not aside, if Barack Obama has perpetuated a systematic lie upon the American people by claiming to have been born in the US—when he was not—it is an act of fraud and a criminal liability.


100 posted on 01/03/2009 7:50:55 AM PST by dascallie
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To: Will88
But, if Obama were the child of two foreign nationals, the mother of whom managed to enter the US illegally and have her child in a US hospital at taxpayer expense, well, that baby would be a “natural born citizen” and eligible for all rights due a natural born American citizen, including the right to run for president.

No way, Jose.

You have it very, very wrong.

182 posted on 01/03/2009 8:56:56 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Will88

“But, if Obama were the child of two foreign nationals, the mother of whom managed to enter the US illegally and have her child in a US hospital at taxpayer expense, well, that baby would be a “natural born citizen” and eligible for all rights due a natural born American citizen, including the right to run for president.”

This is simply not true because the definition of “natural born citizen” includes both parents being American citizens (naturised or otherwise). This is one criteria which Obama patently, and even admittedly, fails to meet.


803 posted on 01/05/2009 9:46:37 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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