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To: freepersup

I agree with you. This divorce decree is far from “nothing”, and antoher point I made on the “live” thread is that an unmarried American mother giving birth to a child on foreign soil still confers her citizenship to the child even if born to a foreigner (not sure how the age thing works in this case), but an American mother married to a foreign husband giving birth on foreign soil does NOT confer her citizenship upon said child. So, if indeed 0bama was born in Kenya, now that we know his parents were married, means (to me and someone correct me if I’m wrong) that unless he became naturalized at some point, he may not be a US citizen at all.

I do welcome any corrections, I want to be right, not cling to falsehood.


434 posted on 01/03/2009 1:39:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

You are correct in that Ann and Sr being married makes all the difference as far as U.S. citizenship goes. If they were not married and Jr was born outside the U.S. he would be a bastard but he would be a U.S. citizen bastard as per laws enacted in 1935. If he were born outside the U.S. to married parents then the age requirement in effect at the time comes into play, so his mother was not old enough to automatically transfer U.S. citizenship to him.


437 posted on 01/03/2009 1:44:29 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: little jeremiah

Oops - here’s the info:

“That may be current law, however you have to go by the law at the time of his birth which was this :

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.”


444 posted on 01/03/2009 1:47:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

Your summation that Obama may NOT even be a citizen is valid.


480 posted on 01/03/2009 2:30:10 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: little jeremiah

I guess... from what other poster’s comments have been; one can determine that Berg has had the divorce decree for some time. He’s holding his cards close to his chest. That’s understandable, considering what he is attempting to do. Whether he mined the port of entry data remains unknown. I think Ed Hale will share his find, should he actually uncover docs. that show a Kenyan birth.

The single mom aspect is indeed an interesting consideration. However, several posts (as you also note) have detailed the age and residency requirements, nullifying the ability to confer citizenship from the mother to the child. After all... it’s the law!

Nothing new to report from my sector.


602 posted on 01/04/2009 8:42:21 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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