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To: Tribune7
When did Warren endorse Obama?

What makes you think he needed to endorse Bama?

Of all the preachers/priests this nation has to offer how did it come to be that Bama selected Warren to be his lead preacher in prayer? Was no accident.

I did a bit of inquiring during Clintons administration, to some of my Baptist 'friends' how could it be Clinton's approval ratings always stayed around 66%. Well the responses were always using the words Billy Graham used when he fawned over how old Bill was so charismatically gifted and if he wanted he would have made a wonderful preacher.

Then somewhere in the midst of the Clintons out comes Warren's book and these friends invited me to do their 40 day/week book exercise. And then last year I hear that Hillary was the one, and when she did not make the cut they were off to the races to help Bama get elected. Now they were getting this direction from somebody someplace.

45 posted on 01/03/2009 9:38:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Of all the preachers/priests this nation has to offer how did it come to be that Bama selected Warren to be his lead preacher in prayer?

Probably because he's a popular preacher. Billy Graham gave the benediction at GHWB's inauguration, and he was a personal guest of the Gipper's at his.

50 posted on 01/03/2009 11:27:55 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Just mythoughts

I recently heard some studies on the Modern Church which had some interesting linkage on the ideas espoused by Rick Warren. Here are a few of the names associated with his ideas which evolved from one stage to another, but they all are based on some bad doctrine.

The origins of those ideas aren’t new. Thay may be traced at least back to Phineas Parkhust Quimby’s New Thought which taught an occultic spiritism and mesmerism, leading to influence Charles Fillmore and Mary Baker Glover Parker Eddy(add a few more names if one likes) and the formation of Christian Science.

EW Kenyan thought Christian Science didn’t have enough of Christ’s blood in it, so he took it and added a number of Scripture verses to it to form the faith movement.
Norman Vincent Peale (a 33rd degree mason) who received some of his inspiration while visiting a Shinto Shrine, developed false doctrines which were picked up by Robert Schuler.

Robert Schuler a decade or so ago commented on a Larry King interview that he had been mentoring Rick Warren. This was just after Schuler had been promoting his ‘New Reformation’, attempting to preach the gospel without any reference to sin or atonement, so as not to offend the self esteem of listeners. Schuler sent a copy of his book to every pastor in America to promote his ‘New Reformation’. Warren followed Schuler’s lead with his Purpose-Driven Life message.

All of these movements link a way to God other than through Christ and emphasize an ability to create reality from our thinking or words independent of Christ.

IMHO, the entire Warren/Obama affair smacks of masonic ties and attempts to manipulate worldly power structures. If they turn around and perform through faith alone in Christ alone, there’s no problem, only blessings in store for them. If they seek any other path, they just manifest for all history the foolishness of those who rebel from His plan.


52 posted on 01/03/2009 11:50:04 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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