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1 posted on 12/26/2008 6:46:21 AM PST by vietvet67
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You used too many words.

The Sheep will never see this.


2 posted on 12/26/2008 6:51:13 AM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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Once again, if President George W. Bush is so hated, then why was he elected President of the United States TWICE? the media just makes up crAP.


3 posted on 12/26/2008 6:52:42 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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"President George W. Bush is being crucified in the public square in spite of his plain decency and goodness,

No W is being crucified exactly because he is a decent human. He has let the MSM turn on him in a shark type feeding frenzy. Those around him seem powerless to stop it or get him to act. It is too late now to do anything about it. The more he talks the more he feeds them. It is a co-dependent relationship of the most destructive kind. He needs to just step off the stage and let the public and the MSM get on to other targets. A modern President in the US needs to be able to control the press and/or keep them neutral. Reagan was a genius at it and Clinton was very good at it. Bush Senior was the prototype for W. Many things he did started the sharks down this road. At least he did not generate a new page of gaffes on Youtube every time he gave a public speech.

4 posted on 12/26/2008 6:56:29 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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Mr Bush, our President, is probably the classiest man to ever hold the office. He learned civility at the knee of his father. A kinder, more decent soul would be a world rarity. He has led us through difficult and dangerous times, with constant sniping and backbiting unseen in many a decade.

Might God continue to grace this great nation and all of our leaders, for he has led with humility and wisdom and courage at every turn. As CinC he merits the MOH.

A great man for challenges at nearly every turn. Thank-you to G W Bush and Laura.


5 posted on 12/26/2008 6:59:10 AM PST by petertare (--)
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Amen.


6 posted on 12/26/2008 6:59:43 AM PST by clintonh8r (For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of my country.)
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I wish our guys would quit with this “Two wars” bullsh!t.

We are fighting one war - a long one, to be sure - against islamofascism.

Iraq and Afghanistan are requisite campaigns on the road to victory, much the same as North Africa, Italy, France, and the Pacific Campaigns were in World War II. I don’t believe FDR was criticised for starting three wars, was he?

No, but back then the political opposition and press were not traitorous activists.


7 posted on 12/26/2008 7:01:36 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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The master plan, it got the presidency back for the Democrats didn't it?
8 posted on 12/26/2008 7:02:48 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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The media is comprised of

Liberal/Socialist/Progressive/Marxist/Stalinist (all one word)

hate mongers. They are nasty, self serving pieces of lying crap on which the air they breath is a waste.

9 posted on 12/26/2008 7:06:09 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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There is in fact a mob psychology among the media elite, and I believe it stems from the same source as most mob activity: fearful insularity - a sense of "sameness" and hatred of "the other". In other words, most media members know each other, live in the same places, went to the same schools, and share the same values. Some have quite literally never met a Republican, conservative, or evangelical Christian outside of their professional lives.

In this way, people who fancy themselves "citizens of the world" in reality become narrow, parochial and bigoted.

11 posted on 12/26/2008 7:16:45 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Ronald Reagan had a vision of America. Barack Obama has a vision of Barack Obama.)
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Good commentary but he shakes some readers loose, quite unnecessarily, by the initial reference to the “crucifixion” of the king. “Ritual slaughter” would have been a better term.
Nor do I think the reaction to Bush rises to the level of mythological impulse. But it’s a good read and offers an interesting perspective.


13 posted on 12/26/2008 7:17:22 AM PST by Graymatter
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“While it is natural enough for conservatives to be upset by the blatant unfairness of the propaganda media -— indeed, by their visible madness -— if we just take a little mental distance, we can easily see an ancient anthropological drama: The crucifixion of the reigning king, along with the messianic glorification of a new one, who will surely rescue us from our media-driven despair. (Of course the new king will also grow weaker in time, in spite of his charismatic magic ...) This is the stuff of Shakespeare and Sophocles. George W. Bush’s “head is bloody but unbowed,” to quote the poem Invictus, (”undefeated’) the Victorian answer to political witchhunts. “

England was part of this madness with King Charles II. They overthrew a monarchy in place of a Parliament. The Prime Minister then attempted to place his son on the ruling seat upon his death, which pissed everyone off. “If we are going to have a monarchy, why one like that? Let’s just go back to the monarchy” which allowed the WONDERFUL King Charles II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_England) to be placed back on the throne. He was the save all, end all of England. It wasn’t until a few years later when he himself was just as corrupt (even though he lived as almost a Pauper in France while in exile and vowed to not fall into the trappings of royalty), but he did. And the people became just as upset with him as any other.

Just give it time.


15 posted on 12/26/2008 7:23:32 AM PST by autumnraine
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For the last eight years we have witnessed the most distasteful media coverage, coupled with internet insanity take shot after shot against a man who is a decent, gentle soul.

We have witnessed calendars made out of his verbal failings while being told Obama is the greatest orator ever.

We have witnessed caricatures of monkeys made out of our elected leader while we were told the use of Obama’s middle name was a scare tactic.

We have witnessed books and shirts depicting the murder of our elected leader while we were told that any critcism of Obama was nothing more than veiled racism.

The liberals won the war of words and imagery because our side does not fight back.

The liberals have managed to destroy any positive that may exist with innuendo, supposition and conspiracy. At this point, most people cannot agree on the most simple fact anymore.

The death of “truth”. There are no facts.


17 posted on 12/26/2008 7:25:58 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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We’ve seen this all before with President Nixon. What is amazing to me is that the nutjob libtards display no cognitive dissonance in their hatred of President Bush, despite the fact that Big Government continued to grow throughout his presidency. As a conservative I was often displeased with W’s policies, but personally never even came close to hating him.


18 posted on 12/26/2008 7:26:27 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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I think this guy is on to something. We shall see. I am sure history long term will be much kinder to Bush than the MSM and pundits of today.


20 posted on 12/26/2008 7:32:43 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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RE : “President Bush is not a theoretical politician. He is a practical man. He has constantly made the best decisions by his lights, ...”

Are you kidding?? What did all the deals he cut with Pelosi against republicans buy him? How about the all the trillions he borrowed against our future for give-aways like UAW and medicare? 20 % approval? That’s all he got for his working against the party he was the leader of ? He was a republican disaster that borrowed political chips (as well as $$) to win 2002+2004 for massive losses 2006+2008. Obama/Pelosi is HIS legacy. He was leader of R party, their doom is his doom. That’s why they called GB election 1988 Reagan’s third election. He opened the socialism door for Obama leaving republicans few arguments next year.

Defend this Bushies:

“Bush springs drug dealers, leaves border agents to rot”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2153577/posts

Can you imagine GWB calling McCain in late September and telling him, “I got really bad news John??? Remember a few months ago when I told you “the fundamentals of the economy are strong’ as you repeated in that clip that Obama is using against you now? Well I am SO SORRY, I have to tell the people on national TV/cable address that we are on the brink of a great depression. I know this looks really bad for you John, but we can turn this around. You can take the credit for MY and Pelosi’s rescue package, if you do you will be a hero and win in a landslide. But if the bailout goes down, we all go down with the economy. Just Trust me one more time again John (until the UAW bailout) and we will be very careful how we use the money so it looks good for our party, Have I ever let you down?? OK i know but this time it will be different”


22 posted on 12/26/2008 7:44:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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The Bush hatred we are seeing in the media today belongs in the long catalogue of human psychopathology -- not rational behavior

If that is this guys point I have stopped reading right there. Despising Bush for asking for, getting, distributing and refusing to account for $700B in bailout money is not rational? Despising Bush for assembling one of the most lackluster underachieving administrations in history is not rational? Despising Bush for searching far and wide, high and low for the most qualified supreme court candidate and choosing Hariett Miers is not rational? Despising Bush for almost losing the war in Iraq by playing politics over senior level assignments is not rational?

28 posted on 12/26/2008 8:11:37 AM PST by AndyJackson
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" ... emotions are the products of the premises held by your mind—that as man must produce the physical values he needs to sustain his life, so he must acquire the values of character that make his life worth sustaining—that as man is a being of self-made wealth, so he is a being of self-made soul ...

From Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.

30 posted on 12/26/2008 8:21:31 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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A thoughtful and indeed scholarly piece of writing by James Lewis of American Thinker. By my replying, this will effectively bookmark it. Thanks for the post.

Now I have a few thoughts myself having retired many moons ago and then wondered about the whole process. The President is still a comparatively young man, surely all right thinking people here will wish him well. Will he spend the time like President Nixon, who tried with some success to get back what was wrongfully stolen from him?

Will he be like a sort of wandering hound, still searching for the glory he once had, still out there coining it? (chuckle) No doubt he (Bubba) is like Henry the Eighth,dodging the sharp tongue of his last and dominant wife (he could not execute her).

Anyway, that said, my guess is that President Bush will fit in to retirement splendidly. One happy man to an extent,with what he knows re America's security from various swine.

Time will tell

35 posted on 12/26/2008 8:33:36 AM PST by Peter Libra
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Funny thing, the left answers the charge of irrational Bush hatred with countercharges of our Clinton hatred.

I can’t speak for everyone, but most of the conservative folks with whom I’m acquainted never hated him. Despised his policies and behavior, sure, as did I. But that’s a far cry from the personal hatred oozing from the majority of leftists.


38 posted on 12/26/2008 8:53:05 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Read it if you want to understand Bush hatred and Obama worship. ....Alexander Hamilton famously said, "The people? The people is a great beast!"

After accusing Bush criticisms as being irrational, this guy then goes on THIS RANT? I think Bush has been horrifically ineffective because of the do-nothings he has put in positions of leadership, but it is a stretch to get from there to Obama worship. Hamilton was a great administrator, which Bush is not, and he was no friend of democracy.

43 posted on 12/26/2008 8:58:18 AM PST by AndyJackson
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