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To: briarbey b
There is no serious argument that Vattel was a great authority for the Founders however he was a basis not a sole authority. His work, Montesquieu, Puffendorf, and Blackstone were all used for legal matters. Citizenship is not passed only through the father in this day and age and the Constitution does not use gender specific language in any case. Nor would the Founders claim that a child born to an operative in service to nation would lose any of his rights.

Allegiance is the key to being a natural born citizen not geographical proximity. Native born is not the same as Natural born but if you are native born your are natural born as well. McCain is not Native born but his Natural born because of the allegiance of his family as citizens. This is why this case was rejected and because Congress has the ultimate rule on eligibility. Unlike McCain Zero has not presented a BC to a court as far as we know and, hence, we do not know if he is Native born, Natural born or Kenyan born.

29 posted on 12/16/2008 5:28:36 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob
Unlike McCain Zero has not presented a BC to a court as far as we know and, hence, we do not know if he is Native born, Natural born or Kenyan born.

I fear as a country we have been so globally brainwashed it doesn't matter one way or another to most people. Sovereignty is no longer important.

Anyone seen my T.V. remote????

35 posted on 12/16/2008 5:35:33 PM PST by briarbey b
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To: arrogantsob
"Congress has the ultimate rule on eligibility"

Congress' only "ultimate rule" on eligibility is impeachment- which, of course, can only be exercised after he is President.

In construing the constitution it is a rule that where a power is given in an instance and not in a similar one that it is the same as if that power were affirmatively denied.

Congress is specifically given the power to judge their members qualifications yet they are not given that power with regards to the President's qualifications.

We really need legislation establishing a clear, national, standard for qualifying candidates.

104 posted on 12/16/2008 8:22:20 PM PST by mrsmith
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