Posted on 12/16/2008 4:19:57 PM PST by briarbey b
“1. Unless his definition is included in the 14th Amendment, then no, his personal definition does not appear to be relevant.”
It is clearly relevant if one desires to understand what the author is talking about, and the term is not elsewhere defined as you seem to suggest. You appear to be a “living Constitution” advocate.
“2. If he was born on the moon to an American parent, then yes he is natural born.”
It appears you have some homework to do.
Briarbey b, us guys realized you were a female, none of us in our right minds would dare call a woman a dumb blonde!
Wrong......she lived overseas the majority of her life, from childhood on, with spells in the U.S.
Briarbey b, us guys realized you were a female, none of us in our right minds would dare call a woman a dumb blonde!
ROFLMAO!! Smart man! But kind sir..I can be ...SOMETIMES!
But doesn’t change the fact that I am an American and I am very worried about my country and the future of my grandchildren. I am also concerned about the apathy and non concern of so many.
As a grandma and a dumb blonde at times, I can still pick up a rifle with the best of them and fight for what I believe in....just don’t stand in front of me!! :)
Blatant liars seldom know where their lies end ... pitiful that.
The destruction of our Constitutional Republic has been planned in such a way that there will not be any ‘picking up a rifle’ to defend the dead Republic. By abrogating the Constitutional eligibility requirement, the contract with We The People is ended. What follows will be servitude exchanged for food and shelter. The old ‘We The People’ will be effectively ‘we the sheeple, in order to avoid racial viloence and martial law’ ...
I don't appreciate being called a liar. Back off.
I said the article didn't make his point. Where does it say anything like what you posted? It doesn't, does it? Not only was I not lying, I was right.
Sadly...it just may end up being that easy. But I can still say...”Give me Liberty or Give me Death!!” Because without our liberty we might as well be dead. Life without the freedom to live it is no life at all!!
INDUBITABLY -- UNEQUIVOCALLY -- SO!!!
CASE CLOSED!!
STE=Q
You are preaching to the choir. I think the case has merit because Obama was born in Kenya, to a foreign father and a mother who had not lived for five years in the US beyond the age of 18.
I also strongly suspect that Obama registered for school as a foreign national, or used a foreign passport as an adult, or acted in some other way to create a presidential disability.
Even though the case has apparent merit, I think the Supreme Court will cower.
All those born under those criteria are citizens at birth, thus by the natural act of being born, they are citizens.
Two types of U.S. citizens, natural born and naturalized.
If Obama was born in Hawaii he was a natural born U.S. citizen, and always would be, no matter any other citizenship status.
Pay attention. I didn’t call you a liar, I called arrogantsob n00b a liar. I pinged you because he lied to you.
“Oh please...”
I sense we are on the same page. With the 1) and 2) I was simply trying to eliminate a few of the likely 1961 possiblities.
Your post makes me wonder what the dates of his books are, the date of the 1990’s tape wherein he states he was trying to figure out who his father was and the date he decided to run for president.
O acts as though he has a substantial reason for not disclosing his birth documents and he is in essence playing a shell game with our nation. When one has a problem but doesn’t have the facts, it is appropriate to speculate.
So, think outside the box with me. If O was born in Kenya, he is astute enough to realize he is short one US citizen parent in order to qualify for the presidency.
Now lets consider whether, after he decided to run for president, there was a Sandy Burglar-type operation in Hawaii. Could it be Gov Lingo sealed the records based on evidence of prior tampering?
When discussing this issue with a lib my stock question is “why won’t 0 just show the BC and settle this controversy once and for all”? I have yet to get a cogent answer.
In all seriousness, if I were to venture over to Kos or Huffy, how would they explain 0’s reluctance?
The resolution of all this seems so simple to me.
I was unclear and meant that she had lived in the US almost her entire life before the age of 18 not after that. Her life after that was mostly out of the country I believe and gave rise to another blind alley in the claim that Obama was adopted and thereby lost his American citizenship, if he was a citizen prior. Indonesia law cannot remove an American’s citizenship.
What am I supposed to be lying about?
Indeed it is you who are lying when claiming I am a Obama supporter. Review my posts and show me ONE supporting him in any way. Not agreeing with ludicrously constructed court cases does not make it.
Some people cannot do any better.
Thanks for recalling that little tidbit. I was only referring to the Founding period not superceding works.
It wasn’t Vattel which was ratified but the US constitution a gender neutral document.
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