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Over 2T tons of ice melted in arctic since '03 (think of the polar bears!)
AP via Yahoo ^ | Tue Dec 16 2008 | Too ashamed to say

Posted on 12/16/2008 9:34:31 AM PST by PreciousLiberty

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To: Post Toasties

Makes me sick. How do these people live with themselves


21 posted on 12/16/2008 9:54:29 AM PST by nominal
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To: Abathar

and if they put the percentage of increase, or a timeline of data, or that they don’t really have a good dataset, people would know they’re nuts...

They’re definitely deliberately misrepresenting the facts, otherwise known as ________ (take your pick)


22 posted on 12/16/2008 9:57:37 AM PST by nominal
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To: PreciousLiberty
Oh NO! We're DOOMED!
We're All Gonna DIE!!!
[Women, Minorities and the Poor to be hit hardest!]
23 posted on 12/16/2008 10:01:03 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Here’s your half milimeter of sea rise |


24 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:00 AM PST by omega4179 ( Those who can't write, write the news)
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To: PreciousLiberty
 

FoxNews: Molten Lava May Be Melting Greenland's Ice Cap

 

25 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:47 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Looks like NASA’s looking for more funding from Obama. It’s very timely too. I scratch your back...


26 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:03 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

try these dates:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=12&fd=15&fy=1979&sm=12&sd=15&sy=2008

Dec 14, 1979 to Dec 15, 2008


27 posted on 12/16/2008 10:17:21 AM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
The Chicago area is now under a Winter Storm Watch. We're *supposed* to get from 4" to 12" of snow this afternoon. NASA can come pick it up tomorrow.

I'll even let them shovel my driveway.

28 posted on 12/16/2008 10:17:29 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Read some recent background on it here: The Accelerated Disintegration of Greenland's Glaciers Volume 9, Number 10: 8 March 2006
When actual measurements of the ice sheet via satellite radar altimetry are employed, quite a different perspective is obtained. Zwally et al. (2005), for example, found that although "the Greenland ice sheet is thinning at the margins," it is "growing inland with a small overall mass gain." In fact, for the 11-year period 1992-2003, Johannessen et al. (2005) found that "below 1500 meters, the elevation-change rate is -2.0 ± 0.9 cm/year, in qualitative agreement with reported thinning in the ice-sheet margins," but that "an increase of 6.4 ± 0.2 cm/year is found in the vast interior areas above 1500 meters." Spatially averaged over the bulk of the ice sheet, the net result, according to the latter researchers, was a mean increase of 5.4 ± 0.2 cm/year, "or ~60 cm over 11 years, or ~54 cm when corrected for isostatic uplift."

Consequently, and in direct contradiction of the claim of Rignot and Kanagaratnam, Greenland has experienced no "ice sheet mass deficit in the last decade." Quite to the contrary, it has been host to a net accumulation of ice, which Zwally et al. find to be "contributing -0.03 ± 0.01 mm a-1 to sea-level change." As a result, the net accretion of ice on Greenland over the past decade has actually been ever so slightly lowering global sea level.

29 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:22 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Abathar

I melt quite a bit of ice myself. Make mine on the rocks.


30 posted on 12/16/2008 10:19:39 AM PST by billhilly (Sayonara Detroit)
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To: Condor51
I just saw this for Chicago:

"Snow this evening will taper off as a few snow showers late. Low 21F. ESE winds shifting to WSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulating 1 to 2 inches."
31 posted on 12/16/2008 10:20:27 AM PST by aruanan
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To: PreciousLiberty

http://www.medindia.net/news/Volcano-Deep-Down-Could-Be-Melting-Greenlands-Ice-30702-1.htm

Thinning of the crust (hot magma may the the real reason, but then again NASA doesn’t to USGS work.


32 posted on 12/16/2008 10:21:24 AM PST by wildcats77
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To: Incorrigible

I hate the term molten lava or molten magma, it is like liquid water, or solid ice.


33 posted on 12/16/2008 10:22:03 AM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: billhilly

Yep, nothing finer than the perfect ice that is hard and cracks when you pour over it, and perfectly clear so you can watch it happen.

Hell, if the ice is like that you could import it and sell it in high-end bars for a good sum.


34 posted on 12/16/2008 10:25:14 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: omega4179

How the hell do they measure a half millimeter sea level rise? The surface tension (meniscus) on any measuring device would be greater than a half millimeter.

Anyhooo, shows just how miniscule the “problem” really is.


35 posted on 12/16/2008 10:26:12 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: kevinm13

No one has demonstrated that this has anything to do with carbon dioxide, beyond a claim that coincidence is equivalent to causation.


36 posted on 12/16/2008 10:28:31 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Travis T. OJustice

“Chesterfield. A silly millimeter longer, 101”. It is very insignificant, but they have us talking about “it”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWtls7zgDiQ


37 posted on 12/16/2008 10:30:17 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: wildcats77

And to just add to the information already presented:

http://www.iceagenow.com/Ocean_Warming.htm


38 posted on 12/16/2008 10:32:32 AM PST by USAF70 (I'm a bitter clinger)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I hope my calculations are correct:

2 trillion tons of ice would make a block of ice that is 7.7 miles x 7.7 miles x 7.7 miles.

If I am correct, that ain’t squat!


39 posted on 12/16/2008 10:35:40 AM PST by avacado
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To: aruanan
I just saw this for Chicago:

"Snow this evening will taper off as a few snow showers late. Low 21F. ESE winds shifting to WSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulating 1 to 2 inches."


Ooops.... (from my WeatherUnderground Program)

I need new glasses, don't know where the heck I saw 12"
In any case NASA can still come shovel my driveway. 5" is still a lot :-)
40 posted on 12/16/2008 10:38:55 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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