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Norway - a paradigm for anti-Semitism
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12-15-08 | MANFRED GERSTENFELD

Posted on 12/15/2008 5:31:53 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson

“When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking anti-Semitism.”


21 posted on 12/15/2008 6:32:38 AM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: TXnMA; SJackson
I have never understood why some folks are anti-Semitic. I must be dense; I just do not get it...

In Europe it dates back to when Christianity became a state religion. In prior historical periods Israel was always a difficult area to control when it was conquered.

Also, in Europe because Jews were discriminated against and kept out of the trades they were further isolated from the population as a whole. What I'm trying to figure out is why the ongoing hatred. They suffered terribly during WWII and their population was decimated. IOW, they are not a noticeable portion of the population.

22 posted on 12/15/2008 6:35:19 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: Radl
Pretty ugly seeing a child learning to be nasty at such a young age.
23 posted on 12/15/2008 6:40:36 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: SJackson

Perhaps a better question is, “Does the Norwegian media, accurately represent the Norwegian populace?”


24 posted on 12/15/2008 6:50:46 AM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: WayneS

“Jespersen explained that he wouldn’t burn the Koran if he wanted to live longer than a week.”

He already gave you an answer.


25 posted on 12/15/2008 7:27:23 AM PST by Augustinian monk ("Can't we try bombing them with kindness?")
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To: Augustinian monk

I missed that!

Thanks.


26 posted on 12/15/2008 7:30:05 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: wmfights
If there are not a lot there why have any hatred. I don't recall any history there involving the Jews that has any controversy.

I don't think there is any controversy, Jews were essentially barred from the country till the mid 19th century. There have never been more that a thousand or two there. Of course lack of a population didn't prevent Shakespeare, who probably never met a Jew, from writing about Shylock.

27 posted on 12/15/2008 7:41:02 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: ikka
Perhaps a better question is, “Does the Norwegian media, accurately represent the Norwegian populace?”

Probably not, but they do mould opinion.

28 posted on 12/15/2008 7:43:01 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: wmfights

Here is one of their cheers. Of course in Scotland they sing f&ck the pope. I guess hatred is pretty common over there. This is not just one or two people but a large percentage of the fans attending the games.

GOOD OLD ADOLF HITLER
HE WAS A CHELSEA FAN
ONE DAY HE WENT TO WHITE HART LANE
AND ALL THE JEW BOYS RAN
AT LAST HE GOT A FEW OF THEM
UP AGAINST THE WALL
AT FIRST HE LAUGHED A LITTLE BIT
AND THEN HE GASSED THEM ALL


29 posted on 12/15/2008 7:56:18 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: SJackson

After reading this, I sadly come to the conclusion that Norway deserves to be overrun by their fellow Jew-hating islamiacs and jihadists...


30 posted on 12/15/2008 8:03:31 AM PST by piytar
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To: SJackson
Of course lack of a population didn't prevent Shakespeare, who probably never met a Jew, from writing about Shylock.

Different era, the driving force was religion. Europe is secular now, except for the immigrants. Since WWII the population of Jews in Europe is very small, why the continued hatred.

31 posted on 12/15/2008 8:15:31 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Three main reasons, IMHO:

(1) I know this sounds like libspeak, but hatred really is a habit, both personally and culturally. It is a hard habit to break, too.

(2) Much of Europe is both arrogant and miserable. They feel superior, but know they are economically (per capita) and militarily inferioir to the US and by extension our friend Israel. That creates resentment, which is a short distance from hatred.

(3) They buy into the islamiac and leftscum propaganda that if it weren’t for Israel and by extension their friend the US’s support for Israel, the Middle East would be peaceful instead of the sore on humanity’s rear end that it is. So they blame/hate Israel and Jews.

These are generalizations. Not all Europeans think tis way or fit into these molds. But an awful lot do...


32 posted on 12/15/2008 8:36:42 AM PST by piytar
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To: wmfights

They have embraced their dhimmitude. The Muslims (Borg) have assimilated them..


33 posted on 12/15/2008 9:44:11 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: piytar
(1) I know this sounds like libspeak, but hatred really is a habit, both personally and culturally. It is a hard habit to break, too.

I know and agree. It just seems odd that in Europe there would be this lingering hatred. They know first hand the horrors of what was done.

(2) Much of Europe is both arrogant and miserable. They feel superior, but know they are economically (per capita) and militarily inferioir to the US and by extension our friend Israel.

I agree with your assessment of how they view us and some of the reason they resent us, but Israel is every bit the socialist system they are. In fact Israel is even more dependent on us than they are. But yet they still resent them as much as us.

(3) They buy into the islamiac and leftscum propaganda that if it weren’t for Israel and by extension their friend the US’s support for Israel, the Middle East would be peaceful instead of the sore on humanity’s rear end that it is. So they blame/hate Israel and Jews.

Do you really think they buy into that 2nd grade crap? They have to realize by now the problem with the muslims is the muslims. The rest of the world only wants to do business.

34 posted on 12/15/2008 11:24:12 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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To: sheik yerbouty

The thing is as long as they keep Israel the big bad bogeyman the muzzies can silently take over countries like Norway. The people are too busy hating Israel because their leftists media tells them so, that they do not see the real enemy anymore. And that enemy is already way past the gate...


35 posted on 12/15/2008 1:21:00 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: wmfights

Hating Jews is ingrained in their culture. Their reasons change along with the trends of the day, but the Jew-hating remains constant.


36 posted on 12/15/2008 2:59:54 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: sheik yerbouty

They hate Jews regardless of what Muslims think of them or of Jews.


37 posted on 12/15/2008 3:00:34 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: knighthawk

TROP is like an insidious, metastatic carcinoma. in some cases, radiotherapy may be indicated..


38 posted on 12/15/2008 9:04:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: knighthawk
"The thing is as long as they keep Israel the big bad bogeyman the muzzies can silently take over countries like Norway. The people are too busy hating Israel because their leftists media tells them so, that they do not see the real enemy anymore. And that enemy is already way past the gate..."

According to this site, the Muslim population of Norway is about 46,000. That is 35 TIMES their population of even nominal Jews -- 65 TIMES the number of practicing Jews in Norway.

So, what are we really looking at here? I suspect a propaganda war against Jews, playing on more-or-less latent Lutheran teachings, for the purpose, as you say, of diverting attention from real potential threats.

Muslim population by country

39 posted on 12/16/2008 3:55:23 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: SJackson

Norwegian MSM - which is dominated by socialists and “former” communists - has been demonizing Israel for the last 30 years.

Some ignorant Norwegians (mostly among the younger generations) have thus been brainwashed to hate Israel. As most Israelis are Jews, they also dislike them.

I have always been a friend of both Israel and Jews. The same goes for many of my fellow Norwegians, especially those who are active Christians.

Jespersen is a cowardly comedian. He know it is safe to target Christians and Jews, but is well aware of how dangerous it can be to insult Muslims.

Please excuse my bad English.


40 posted on 12/16/2008 9:14:03 AM PST by Bergen
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