Posted on 12/13/2008 3:24:44 PM PST by james500
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Prayers for their families.
About 12 miles north of me. Woodburrito town.
Woodburn is a fairly small city. Located about midway between Portland and Salem. 'Bout 20 miles north of Salem and about the 25 south of Portland. There might be 15,000 in the area. It's a sprawling farm area with some really big agriculture due to being in the Willamette valley. It has been over-run by hispanics and russian immigrants. Not such a great town anymore, as you can guess. The immigrant population is pretty destitute.
If MSNBC discovers the bomber is a liberal that is exactly what they'll do. They'll fawn all over him - just like Ayers. If the bomber's a conservative he'll be the Timothy McVeigh treatment.
And these guys wonder why people don't trust the MSM?
Being that it’s Oregon where it happened it could be any manner of extremist group or a lone nutcase. Oregon seems to have more than it’s share of whackos and we have large extremist populations on both sides of the political spectrum. From leftwing anarchists, communists, Alf/Elf, to rightwing militant religious groups, and white supremicists. Oregon seems to be a melting pot for nutjobs.
Another thing not mentioned is that Woodburn with its HUGE illegal and barely legal Mexican population may mean this is a narco related hit gone bad (or good if the narcos were after cops). Woodburn being right next to I-5 is a major hub for trafficing meth from the Mexican superlabs. Lucky for me I live only 15 minutes South of there. (sarc/)
**Lucky for me I live only 15 minutes South of there. (sarc/)**
We must be neighbors.
Through the grapevine I heard they inspected quite a number of hoax bombs that day. Sounds like they were set up.
I am trying to wrap my head around WHY they would move a suspected bomb inside? Where a blast would be intensified by being indoors, not to mention increased risk of glass flying or building collapsing? Was there a K-9 unit on the scene to check the item? In the (admittedly very limited) bomb training I received, a blast indoors or in a small enclosed area was considered a worst-case scenario that would maximize casualties.
Every city in the Willamette Valley, plus the Oregon State Police, are well equipped and well trained in this type of thing, and the Salem-Woodburn area has had it's share of this type of event over the years.
To characterize these guys as untrained hicks is unthinking. Something went wrong no doubt, and it may have been through error of someone on scene or not. Right now all I can say is what's being reported doesn't make sense.
Uh, thanks for that. Nicest thing I've heard all day (though it's not quite 5:00 AM).
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My guess would be a yes.
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