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To: lmr

“You see, Guns aren’t allowed on school property, either.”

They should be.
They were when I was in school, and that wasn’t very many years ago. Nobody ever got shot either.

This is not a debate site, it is a conservative site. Leftist indoctrination doesn’t fly here.

Lest you think I am interested in any more of your “logic”, take a look at my tag line.


146 posted on 12/11/2008 3:28:15 PM PST by Nik Naym (Everyone has a right to my opinion.)
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To: Nik Naym

Hey, I only said cellphones should be turned off at school.

You are the one who used horrible logic in an argument and tried to debate. I only merely pointed out your idiocy.

You are ignorant beyond belief. Check out my profile and go to my Youtube channel. I am a vocal defender of the 2nd amendment.

I have all the credibility a Conservative would ever need and I make money doing it.

You, on the other hand, are a joke.

“Leftist indoctrination”-whatever. stick it in your piehole, buddy.


149 posted on 12/14/2008 1:19:12 AM PST by lmr
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To: Nik Naym

But it’s not purely a question of principle, though.

America can be excessively litigious and to some extent much of what you see as “leftist” controls are a reaction to the risk of being sued, as they are about a principle of control freakery.

If a school has a policy saying “no guns onsite” and some kid walks in with a gun, the school is far more insulated from the financial risk if something awful does happen, than if it allowed anyone to walk on the premises with weapons, with complete impunity.

The frequency of something bad happening as a consequence of letting minors take guns to school might seem to you to be miniscule, but the severity of the outcome if something does go wrong can be catastrophic.

Accidental injury and a few holes in the ceiling are repairable and of minor consequence compared to handling the psychological impact.

Gunshot suicides and/or spree killings destroy the lives not just of the victims and their families, but the perp’s families, the faculty, and anyone who witnessed the attack. Which could be hundreds of kids.

What’s the worst that can happen as a DIRECT consequence of minors NOT being allowed to take guns onto school premises?

If the bad guys do come into the school I would expect the authorities and the school staff to do what they’re paid to do... protect the children. I want my kids out of the line of fire, not walking into it. So, I don’t see the need for my kids to take guns to school.

Unless you’re prepared to pay ludicrous sums for indemnity insurance to allow ANY kid to go into school with a gun, for no apparent reason whatsoever, the litigation threat needs to be addressed before you can have your kids tooling up for school.

Although why you’d actually want your kids to take guns to school, escapes me completely.


150 posted on 12/14/2008 2:36:03 AM PST by Don Stadt
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