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Brain swelling blamed in many Mount Everest deaths
News Daily ^ | Dec 9, 2008 | Will Dunham

Posted on 12/10/2008 12:06:19 AM PST by fightinJAG

WASHINGTON, Dec. 9, 2008 (Reuters) — A brain swelling condition related to low oxygen levels in the air may have caused many of the deaths of people climbing Mount Everest, researchers said on Tuesday.

A brain swelling condition related to low oxygen levels in the air may have caused many of the deaths of people climbing Mount Everest, researchers said on Tuesday. An international team led by Paul Firth of Massachusetts General Hospital studied the 212 reported deaths from 1921 to 2006 on Mount Everest, the highest on Earth.

Hazards awaiting those who dare to climb the 29,000-foot (8,850 meter) Himalayan mountain include extreme cold, whipping winds, changing weather, treacherous climbs and avalanches. Oxygen content in the air is only a third of that at sea level.

"Nobody was attacked by any Yeti or anything else," Firth said, referring to the "abominable snowman" of legend.

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KEYWORDS: climbing; everest; mounteverest
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1 posted on 12/10/2008 12:06:20 AM PST by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

I wonder if they’ve ever done a study on the lifespan effects of a Mt. Everest climb.

Low oxygen, extreme cold, and extreme physical stress would most likely do irreparable damage to the heart and lungs, as well as the brain; possibly shortening the life of the person that “survived” the climb.

Then again, I can see the point in such an act in any case.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 12:19:05 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

But the view is pretty, right ?


3 posted on 12/10/2008 12:25:33 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: clee1

Sir Edmund Hillary lived to nearly 90, FWIW.


4 posted on 12/10/2008 12:31:27 AM PST by kms61
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To: clee1

Don’t most potential climbers get physicals first? Considering that a number are wealthy, why not choose to do a full head to toe check including MRI and CTSCAN before and after. That could provide good information for comparisons. I wonder if any place in Pakistan has an excellent Radiology department to do these tests? Thus getting the best results as close as possible to getting off the mountain.


5 posted on 12/10/2008 12:47:57 AM PST by neb52 (Go Frogs!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

So they say.....

But I’m not willing to risk death for the view, when there are many lovely views to be had w/o such a risk.

I don’t remember where this comes from but i remember reading that 1 in 6 people climbin Everest die in the attempt.

Don’t give a d@mn for those odds!


6 posted on 12/10/2008 12:48:31 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: neb52

I would suspect that any rational peoson would be certain of good health before attempting such a climb. Heck, even getting to Everest in the first place is no pleasure cruise.

However, I’ll bet that a goodly percentage of people making the attempt don’t get past one of the lower-altitude base camps before deciding they don’t have the physical stamina to attempt the summit.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 12:52:37 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: fightinJAG

Thank god I didn’t climb Everest.

When I was young and dumb I set my mind to climbing Everest right after graduating High School to prove my undying love for some girl in my class.

That plan flew out of the window when I went to college and discovered that there were hotter girls out there who were easily impressed with a bottle of Jack and loud music.


8 posted on 12/10/2008 1:08:43 AM PST by Zombie Lincoln (Don't you know it's gonna be alright)
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To: clee1
I wonder if they’ve ever done a study on the lifespan effects of a Mt. Everest climb.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88... I'm thinking that the fitness requirements to climb to altitude are more than able to compensate for the stresses of the climb.

I was thinking that maybe pre-climbing with treatment of diamox or dexamethasone may be the way to go and study those that took it versus those that didn't.

9 posted on 12/10/2008 4:30:48 AM PST by erman
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To: erman

Anecdotal evidence re: E. Hillary

I’d really like to see the data of death age vs. life expectancy for the exact demographic represented by each successful summiter, as well as the cause of death.

That might tell a clearer story.


10 posted on 12/10/2008 4:39:30 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Actually, I've read that the view is pretty cluttered these days. There are actually guided tours to the summit, so a lot of people who shouldn't be climbing are, and they have littered the landscape with oxygen bottles and trash.

I also read that a group of climbers reached the summit only to find that another group was already there, and that their first act on attaining the peak was to urinate.

Kind of removes some of the spirituality, eh?

11 posted on 12/10/2008 4:42:19 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
Actually, I've read that the view is pretty cluttered these days.

Among the things it's cluttered with are frozen corpses of climbers. I think one of the victims of the disaster described in the book Into Thin Air is still sitting right by the trail in freeze-dried condition.

12 posted on 12/10/2008 4:48:39 AM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

Here’s a guy who had a 50% success rate:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/09/0927_020927_siffredi.html


13 posted on 12/10/2008 4:52:30 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: clee1

I’ve seen cattle which were pastured at about 8000’ elevation dying of pulmonary edema, which is what kills many climbers (or used to). The only cure is to get the animal down to a lower elevation where there is more oxygen. I once heard one of the early Everest climbers say that above 20K feet, the human body inevitably starts to deteriorate. I would guess that the highest permanent human habitation on earth is roughly 1/3 the elevation of Everest.


14 posted on 12/10/2008 4:52:46 AM PST by hellbender
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To: IronJack

Bet it smells great, too.


15 posted on 12/10/2008 5:16:50 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: kms61

And the sherpa guides have multiple climbs under their belt.


16 posted on 12/10/2008 5:39:21 AM PST by milestogo
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To: IronJack
I also read that a group of climbers reached the summit only to find that another group was already there, and that their first act on attaining the peak was to urinate.

That seems unlikely given the extreme temperatures on the summit.

17 posted on 12/10/2008 5:41:36 AM PST by milestogo
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To: hellbender

Actually, there are some South American Indian tribes that live at 18,000 feet (2/3) and the capital of Bolivia (La Paz) is over 12,000 feet in elevation. The Indians in question are short and have very large lungs :)


18 posted on 12/10/2008 8:45:15 AM PST by Technocrat (Palin-Romney 2012!! Or vice versa.)
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To: Technocrat; Utah Binger
Actually, there are some South American Indian tribes that live at 18,000 feet (2/3) and the capital of Bolivia (La Paz) is over 12,000 feet in elevation. The Indians in question are short and have very large lungs :)

I grew up at about 9000 feet in Utah, - I guess that explains it!

19 posted on 12/10/2008 8:47:34 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hellbender

Check out the altitude of the copper mines in South America.


20 posted on 12/10/2008 8:48:50 AM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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