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To: ConservativeMind

You were saying the following...


Okay, so, both myself and others here are saying:
1. Obama won the election.
2. We know the media and Republicans aren’t following up on the judicial side of the question dealing with his “natural born” status.
3. We know many so-called conservatives, including you, are calling people who agree to the above two things, “kooks,” “crazies,” and “fringies.”.
4. We know that you and Medved believe that people who stood outside of the Supreme Court this past week awaiting the news on the two Obama cases before the court believe such people are both “pathetic and sad”.
5. We know you and Medved said the Supreme Court would throw these out in “4 minutes or less,” on last Friday, which it didn’t, as they held it through the weekend for one case, and continue to hold onto the second while bringing up a third this week. So you and Medved were wrong on this, too.


On #1 and #2 for the most part, okay. On #3, you’ll notice that I’ve been saying that you’re being “kookified” (an offshoot of being “demonized”...). That’s specifically what I’m referring to. You’re trying to characterize it as something different than what I’m telling you.

You *are* being “kookified” and being portrayed as the fringe element. That’s a fact. Just because I recognize that this sort of thing is happening doesn’t mean that I’m the one who is doing it.

On #4 — you won’t find those words in any of my comments...

on #5 — you also won’t find me saying how quick that the Supreme Court will throw these things out. Yes, I am saying they will say “Denied...” No doubt about that. It’s already started. The bottom line is that the election is not going to be overturned, no matter what... No one in power (or the various branches of government) wants to deal with anything like that — so they will do everything that they can to avoid it.

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And then you said — “It appears YOU are the one calling us “kooks,” “crazies,” and “fringies” here on Free Republic and otherwise telling us all such things. I am not talking to Bush or McCain or Palin on these issues—what they do or not doesn’t influence what you say to our faces on Free Republic. My beef is not with their words or the lack thereof. It is with you and your words, deriding myself and others here for what you apparently would be glad to have happen. So you are making fun of us for something you also hope would happen.”

No, you haven’t found me calling these other people kooks or crazies. What I’ve been saying is that people who are going after this Obama Birth Certificate issue in the hopes of the election being overturned — are being portrayed as kooks. There’s a difference in recognizing what is being done — versus — doing that very thing yourself.... LOL...

You and others are *definitely* being “kookified” (similar to being demonized, in order to marginalize you...). That’s what is happening. If you can’t see it, then you’re blind. I’m not the one who is active on that campaign... I’m calling *attention* to the fact of what is happening here...

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And then you said — “You are crazy, Star.”

Well, my reference to you being crazy was if you think that you’re going to have an armed revolution against our government. If you think so — I said you were crazy. If you don’t, then that doesn’t apply.

So, remember, I’m not the one calling for an armed revolution against our government no matter who wins the election and no matter what the Supreme Court does...

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And then, finally, you said — “Don’t forget to bring your girls to protect you. Hey, Alia, care to defend Star again?”

God protects those who depend upon Him... you should learn that one...


77 posted on 12/09/2008 4:28:41 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
This is what you wrote on Thursday as you started your vanity thread:

“I am listening to Michael Medved right now. He has some choice words for people who filed those suits on the Obama birth certificate issue. Among other things, he describes them as “fringies” and “crazies.”

He also described those who are holding a vigil outside the SCOTUS building awaiting tomorrow's decision as pathetic and sad.

Medved predicted that SCOTUS would throw out the case and it would take them 4 minutes or less of deliberation (he was probably employing a bit of hyperbole about the 4 minute thing).

Needless to say, he's right on this. :) “

On Thursday, you also said this, in regards to pursuing any court case on Obama’s legitimacy:

“Don’t you think it’s a bit late to be pursuing this?”

You also said, in regards to someone asking about the questions about residency concerning both McCain and Obama that “They’re both silly.”

Although today you've said you'd be happy if something came of these lawsuits, you said on Thursday, “I think the birth certificate issue ir right up there with the North American Union and the Amero. “

That same day, you said that of those who want this vetted who aren't Nazis that “The rest are just loony, not anti-Semitic.”

On Friday, you said about the Obama legitimacy issues, “However, the kooks don't care if it makes conservatives look crazy and incapable of engaging in sober debate on real issues. They consider it a badge of honor.”

You are not only saying that others are “kookifying” those with questions about Obama, YOU are ALSO independently choosing to do so. When you say, “Just because I recognize that this sort of thing is happening doesn’t mean that I’m the one who is doing it,” you are grossly misreading what your hands are typing onto Free Republic. You are completely responsible for what you are saying. Get real, Star. Or, do you think whatever you may say is your “alternate personality” saying it and not you?

You end by saying you can't be found saying you believe the people at the Supreme Court are “pathetic and sad” or that you thought that the Court would throw out the cases in “4 minutes or less”, but you said you agreed with Medved when he said the exact same thing.

Which personality are we talking with tonight, Star? You seem to not take responsibility for your words.

That's a man of conviction, for you. A great little liberal there.

For those who are curious, all of my references come from the following thread, which Star was responsible for posting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2143018/posts

80 posted on 12/09/2008 5:01:48 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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