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To: jedi150

I notice even local “conservative” talk show hosts stating the gov. of Hawaii saw the birth certificate saying obama was born in Hawaii and that it’s right wing “wackos” who won’t give it up.

1. Did the gov actually SEE the b.c.? I thought it was sealed and no one but obama can access it.

2. The fact that a certification of live birth exists does not mean he was born in Hawaii, according to Hawaii law, correct?

I notice that the talk show hosts seem to ASSUME these two facts, and dismiss those pursuing this as wacko.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 4:01:00 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: Bluebird Singing
1. Did the gov actually SEE the b.c.? I thought it was sealed and no one but obama can access it.

2. The fact that a certification of live birth exists does not mean he was born in Hawaii, according to Hawaii law, correct?

1. No, she just confirmed through the Director of Health that there was a birth certificate on file

2. Correct

34 posted on 12/09/2008 4:25:06 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: Bluebird Singing
...stating the gov. of Hawaii saw the birth certificate saying obama was born in Hawaii... >

What the officials said is that they have his documents on file and that those documents are genuine. The documents are sealed. No official has made any statement as to the content of those documents.

The image posted on the internet, allegedly of Obama's Certification of Live Birth, has been pretty soundly debunked by Polarik as having been tampered with.

Even if it were on the up and up, the Certification of Live Birth is not the long form Birth Certificate, which would indicate all the details of Obama's birth (where, physician attending, etc.).

It is not just the 'birth certificate', though. Irregularities in travel patterns indicate there may be other issues as well, such as having been issued a foreign passport as an adult and having possibly claimed citizenship in another country in order to be granted admission to prestigious Colleges. If that were found to be the case, he would have relinquished his citizenship in order to get perks for college, and no longer have Natural Born Citizen status.

There are a number of documents which need to be produced, and the MSM, and unfortunately many others are diminishing the import of this issue by oversimplifying it, and then trying to ridicule those who keep pushing it forward in hopes of a finding of fact in the matter.

44 posted on 12/09/2008 4:43:24 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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