[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

[GL] "The great apes are the members of the biological family Hominidae which includes humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans." This means that if you're not an ape, you're not human...by definition.

[Petronski] You failed logic.

[GL] Where's the error?

All humans are Hominidae.
All apes are Hominidae.
Therefore, all humans are apes.

All apes are vertebrates.
All fish are vertebrates.
Therefore, all apes are fish.

Corollary:

All humans are fish.

[GL of Sector 2814]

(sigh) My first post:

"The great apes are the members of the biological family Hominidae which includes humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans." This means that if you're not an ape, you're not human...by definition.

If I'd said:

"Porsches includes such models as the Boxster, the Carrera GT, and the Cayenne" This means if a car isn't a Porsche, it's not a Carrera GT...by definition.

Would you have disagreed with this?

I noticed that when I did re-phrase the statement to adhere more closely to formal logic, you (conveniently) failed to quote it, so I'll include it again:

All humans are apes. Therefore, anything that is not an ape is not human.

I'll also repeat my question: Where's the error?