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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I have faith that the truth is “In the beginning, God . . .” When I see the same results over and over from observations done by different people under different conditions, I know the explanation (rationally) fits within that basic knowledge.

We believers should never have allowed this argument to become one of a false dichotomy: one must believe in a Creator or the process of the evolution of species.

Copernicus and Galileo should never have had to deny the truth that they measured over and over, in order to avoid charges and penalties of heresy. The world didn’t fall out of the sky when we believers accepted that the earth is not flat and it’s not the center of the Galaxy, much less the Universe.

In the same way, men and women - all too often our college men and women - who observe micro-evolution in action and who look at the comparative anatomy/physiology/cellular biology/genetics of plants and animals in existence while also studying the fossil record, should not be required to deny the logical conclusion that that’s how God did it.

Some of the people who write and talk about evolution make a point of going outside the facts to *claim* there is no design, and to extrapolate (way outside the facts) to say that evolution of the species or an earth older than 6000 years proves that there is no God. That last part is their motive and agenda.

However, listen to any of them talk and you will hear about design and purpose, when they talk about the results of evolution. They nearly turn Nature or “Evolution” into a being. (Sometimes they talk as though every creature before modern times could manipulate its genes.) They can’t help it: increased complexity is the result of evolution, and it appears to us, from our practical experience in life, as though there’s a purpose, a design. A Reason.

If you engage one of these people in a discussion, they will start asking about the beginning, “Where did God come from?” However, the best answer non-believers can come up with when asked, “where did the energy and matter in the Big Bang come from?” is another universe, begun by a big bang, expansion and eventual collapse of the universe, then another before that, another etc. Some posit infinite Universes existing simultaneously, some with our laws of physics and some not. In effect, they believe that something comes from nothing, falsifying the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy. And yet, all they care about is where God came from?


208 posted on 12/10/2008 6:59:53 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: hocndoc
Some of the people who write and talk about evolution make a point of going outside the facts to *claim* there is no design,

The fact which one needs to note is that "evolution" is, by all the descriptions of it given by evolutionists, a causal-mechanical theory that denies design. Evolutionists have said so, from Darwin until today. You can imagine that "evolution" embraces design in the same way you can imagine a square circle.

220 posted on 12/10/2008 7:54:59 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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