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To: andy58-in-nh

You are so wrong it isn’t even possible to untie the deceit you tried to float. Donofrio’s case wasn’t even about his birth certification!


532 posted on 12/08/2008 11:12:18 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Let's stop the bullshit right here and now.

Donofrio's case was about the effect of foreign parentage on inherited citizenship. He lost (as in "was not successful") when SCOTUS declined to hear the case.

All I am asking for is evidence to prove any of the theories I have heard floated about. Most of what I have heard so far is noise and accusation, none of which advances the conservative agenda.

The best argument I have heard involves Obama's birth mother, and whether she was indeed old enough, and had lived in the US long enough under then-current law for him to qualify as a native-born citizen. But, that assumption is predicated on whether Barack Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii. If he was born in HI, there is no doubt about him being a citizen. If not, then he's got a big problem. So: where's the evidence that he was born in Kenya or somewhere other than Hawaii? Nowhere, that I've seen.

A birth certificate issued by any one of the United States is an official document. A certified copy issued under color of state law is also considered presumptively legitimate. To hold otherwise is to invite chaos. What if you lost your driver's license, and got a duplicate from the state, only to have its legitimacy questioned by the state policeman who pulled you over for speeding? Common law is still in effect in some respects, at least.

590 posted on 12/08/2008 11:46:52 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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