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To: TheCipher

However months later, the Director of the Hawaii State Health Department and the Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii both confirmed that the original Obama Certificate of Live Birth is on file with the state and that they both had personally viewed the document.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081101/NEWS05/811010345/1001/localnewsfront
Plus Obama’s birth notice appeared in both local newspapers the Sunday (August 13, 1961) following his birth being registered with the state and the newspapers get their birth notices directly from the vital statistics bureau and not from the newborn’s family.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg


1,019 posted on 12/09/2008 7:54:48 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777; autumnraine
They vouched that he had an authentic birth certificate. That is all. Not an Hawaiian birth certificate. This is what was said from Hawaii:

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

She did not say original Hawaii birth certificate. Under Hawaiian law, he could have applied for a Hawaii birth certificate provided he could show his mother was a resident of Hawaii one year prior to his birth. Part of that process is submitting your original birth certificate. So therefore, in accordance with state policies and procedures , they would have his original birth certificate on record. It does not mean it is a Hawaii birth certificate.

As to the birth announcement:

A short form COLB shows a birth was registered. But not by whom and exactly how, whereas on the vault copy in section 18a it specifies who registered the birth ( Parent or Other ).

On the Decosta COLB (which no one alleges is a fake,) every field header matches that of the Obama COLB except for one. One hers it says : Date ACCEPTED By State Registrar. On Obamas it says Date FILED By Registrar. Two different things. Either that field header is forged in Obamas ( they are from the same form - OHSM 1.1 Revised (11/01) ) or it means his registration was FILED at that date BUT was not ACCEPTED until later. It wouldn’t be accepted until there was proof of birth. If he was born out of the country it may have taken time to get the certificate.

The grandmother could have registered the birth being a blood relative ( as evidenced by field 18a on the long form ). Once registered it would go to the Dept of Health. That is where the papers get the birth announcements from ( as can been seen from the top of the Sunday Advertiser - Health Bureau Statistics ) and thus the announcement of the birth would be in the papers.

1,020 posted on 12/09/2008 8:02:37 PM PST by TheCipher
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