Posted on 12/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by Red Steel
They might even try to use it to back out of existing agreements
Well at least some are covering it!
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/07/pleading-the-fifth-reader-post/#more-13422
It’s telling that Obama’s peeps have ‘no comment.’
Why?
All inquiries are suppose to go to this person..don’t remember her name..and she is the one that claims the Director was indicating that Obama was born in Hawaii. You will have to read the article. I don’t have the link handy. But it is based on emails and telephone conversations with this person according to the Tribune.
Which begs the question...was that revelation against the law or did Obama put something in writing that told them they could say that to the tribune.
If he is opening the door to a discussion of his birth certificate...does that mean the door is wide open? I mean..kind of like a court case when someone opens the door a topic becomes open for examination.
the link that was posted wasn’t a direct article at the tribune site. I didn’t do any research to see how all of this came about..I just read the story posted by the Obamatron.
HF
Incredible how this is misreported, isn’t it?
All the State said was that a vault copy of his birth certificate did exist and that it was available to Obama if he requested it. Not who issued it, where, or what was on it.
Which knocks holes in any legal argument he might make that such a certificate did not exist or that he could not obtain it to present in court as ordered. It also indicates that only Obama can get the document, not one of his cronies “on his behalf”....
which was probably one reason for his one day trip to Hawaii the week before elections
Janice Okubo?
Barack Obama could have asked a court to examine the documents in closed chambers if that were the case.
Most likely I think is that he's probably eligible, but trying to stoke his ego by demonstrating that he can bluff his way through anything he wants. Not a good precedent to set.
My nightmare scenario is that the Iranians will grab some of our soldiers and accuse them of unlawfully operating under the orders of an illegitimate leader. The only question is will his pride allow the soldiers to go to “trial”.
The Chinese saw weakness in president Bush and tried to exploit it when they held our airmen.
I believe this is the name....she is the one..let me go find the article.
Why is this misrepresentation of what Hawaii health officials said repeated so often? No Hawaiian offical has ever vouched for the authenticity of the birth certificate Obama provided via the web in June.
She should also tell us which hospital he was born in and the doctor who delivered Obama too.
Read this..it puts a new spin on it and brings up more questions
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html
The person you are refering to is Director: Janice Okubo Phone:(808) 586-4442, Fax:(808) 586-4444 ... E-mail: janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov
This is the moron who politico,com claims "authenticated" an emailed SCAN of the supposedly fake COLB.
How you can "authenticate" a scan of a document (that was clearly altered since the serial number was missing) is beyond me - that's like declaring a scan of a twenty dollar bill to be "authentic". In fact she said it "looked just like a real Hawaiian COLB" well Duh! It's forged to "look like" a COLB - and she has no expertize to detect the fraud.
The woman appears to be a loose cannon, she alleged a statement that put words in Fukino's mouth that could put Fukino in legal jeopardy for violating 0bama's privacy
I wouldn't put any stock in her comments.
They are doing it on purpose, they want the uninformed to threaten riots if any investigation were to occur.
An alleged anonymous source? That doesn’t really clear up anything.
Fukino’s statement seems pretty straightforward and carefully worded. It deliberately does NOT say anything about what is in the birth certificate.
http://michaelpatrickleahy.blogspot.com/2008/11/official-statement-of-dr-chiyome-fukino.html
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