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To: devere
wa cannot possibly be a natural born citizen of the USA in the traditional legal meaning of that term

The "traditional legal meaning," as outlined in common law textbooks and in several US Supreme Court decisions, is equivalent to "native-born" or "citizen at birth."

There are only two categories of US citizens, natural-born and naturalized.

If Obama was born in HI, he's natural-born.

If he was born elsewhere, the issue gets complicated, but he may still be eligible.

43 posted on 12/07/2008 12:08:57 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Not entirely true Sherman...

Obama was a citizen of Indonesia until at least the age of 21 at Occidental college, when he traveled abroad under his Indonesian passport.

No matter where he was born, which is indeed in dispute, there is NO dispute over the fact that he was a citizen of Indonesia at a time when Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.

This means he had to have renounced his citizenship in any other nation in order to become a legal citizen of Indonesia.

If he had “naturalized” upon returning to the USA, (which he didn't), then he would be a “naturalized” citizen, not a natural born citizen today.

Please know the facts before posting.

57 posted on 12/07/2008 12:20:49 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Sherman Logan

“There are only two categories of US citizens, natural-born and naturalized.”

Perkins v Elg(1939) seems to support your argument.

“If he was born elsewhere, the issue gets complicated, but he may still be eligible.”

I can’t see how. His mother wasn’t old enough under the law in effect in 1961. Barry Obama has probably never been a US citizen, and is likely subject to deportation.


130 posted on 12/07/2008 1:02:15 PM PST by devere
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To: Sherman Logan

“There are only two categories of US citizens, natural-born and naturalized.

If Obama was born in HI, he’s natural-born. “

Sorry, but you’re wrong. Read this article and enlighten yourself!

The meaning of “natural born.”
http://volokh.com/posts/1204265246.shtml


180 posted on 12/07/2008 1:53:15 PM PST by rswan6574
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