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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
God didn't have sex with Mary !

He made her pregnant. The Bible doesn't say much about the particular method. I'm pretty sure the word "father" involves intercourse with the "mother" by definition. Of course Christians, particularly Catholics see sex as dirty, so they have interpreted the Bible story to mean magic pregnancy even though earlier chapters talk about immortals having sex with the daughters of man.

34 posted on 12/06/2008 6:16:35 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

el Siqo!


43 posted on 12/06/2008 6:22:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: Soliton
He made her pregnant.

Not by sexual intercourse because God is a spirit. Since He created Mary's womb He wold have no problem putting a baby there by non-sexual means.

The Bible doesn't say much about the particular method. I'm pretty sure the word "father" involves intercourse with the "mother" by definition.

No.

Of course Christians, particularly Catholics see sex as dirty,

Yeah. That's why Christians, particularly Catholics, have such small families.

Only an ignorant moron would think that Christians "see sex as dirty." Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, two surveys I read in the past few years (reported in USA Today) state that dedicated Christians have more sex, are more experimental in their sexual lives, and have more satisfying sex lives than any other demographic.

...so they have interpreted the Bible story to mean magic pregnancy even though earlier chapters talk about immortals having sex with the daughters of man.

Now you're just babbling. One has nothing to do with the other.

45 posted on 12/06/2008 6:23:29 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Soliton

Have you heard of the term “virgin birth,” you ignorant dope? Apparently not. Here are some of the biblical references (note, this are CHRISTIAN, not limited to Catholic):

Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.” (New International Version[NIV])
“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son and shall name him Immanuel.” (New Revised Standard Version [NRSV])
“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” (American Standard Version [ASV]) More details

Matthew 1:23 “The virgin shall be with child, and will give birth to a son, and they shall call him Immanuel; which means, ‘God with us.’” (NIV)
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being interpreted, God with us.” (ASV)

Or are you confusing the term “immaculate conception,” which is a strictly Catholic doctrine refering to MARY’s birth, with the virgin birth of Christ? Or have you even heard of these term?

PS Biblical references are valid here even if you think it is a work of fiction because you are ignorantly blathering on about what you FEEL Christians believe.


49 posted on 12/06/2008 6:29:40 PM PST by piytar
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To: Soliton; ATOMIC_PUNK
The Bible doesn't say much about the particular method.

Actually, it does:

31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever. 33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man? 35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
-- Luke 1:31-35

I'm pretty sure the word "father" involves intercourse with the "mother" by definition.

The VERB "father" or "to father" involves intercourse; however, this verb is NEVER used.

so they have interpreted the Bible story to mean magic pregnancy

No, we read it as meaning EXACTLY what it says, YOU are reaching an unsupported conclusion.

though earlier chapters talk about immortals having sex with the daughters of man.

What are you talking about?

57 posted on 12/06/2008 6:43:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Soliton
He made her pregnant. The Bible doesn't say much about the particular method.

The Bible also doesn't say much about the particular method that God created the world. He said and it was. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

150 posted on 12/06/2008 8:45:46 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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