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To: Smokeyblue

The beauty of Leo’s case is that it potentially could be remanded to NJ for further briefing or even trial. This is because NJ seems to be one of the few states that actually imposed more than a ministerial duty upon its SOS to ensure eligible candidates are on the ballot.

The chorus of “not my job” ringing out of Secretaries of State offices all across this land is deafening. And sickening. Because, in fact, it seems that it is no one’s job to actually, with competence and expertise, according to some known standard, with a public result that can be challenged, verify that the President-select (much less all the candidates on the ballot) are natural born citizens.

Hells bells, NO ONE actually knows what a natural born citizen is. Sure, people think this and that, but the answer isn’t an answer until the Supreme Court says it is-—and that Court hasn’t spoken to this exact situation ever.

Since NJ had a statute imposing some duty on the SOS, and at least arguably the SOS did not fulfil that duty, it seems the SCOTUS could find some way to send it back and tell the NJ courts to define the scope of the duty imposed by the statute and find whether or not the SOS fulfilled it. Somewhere in that process, the SOS might actually be required to verify Obama’s eligibility and that process could be amenable to review by the SCOTUS.


46 posted on 12/05/2008 4:18:02 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: fightinJAG

“The chorus of “not my job” ringing out of Secretaries of State offices all across this land is deafening. And sickening. Because, in fact, it seems that it is no one’s job to actually, with competence and expertise, according to some known standard, with a public result that can be challenged, verify that the President-select (much less all the candidates on the ballot) are natural born citizens.”

Bingo. No way a citizen or citizens can do anything about it before the election nor after. Talk about run-arounds and catch-22’s.

“Hells bells, NO ONE actually knows what a natural born citizen is. Sure, people think this and that, but the answer isn’t an answer until the Supreme Court says it is-—and that Court hasn’t spoken to this exact situation ever.”

Exactly why you would think the SCOTUS would take up the issue. It is so very relevant for both Obamafraud and McCain.

“The beauty of Leo’s case is that it potentially could be remanded to NJ for further briefing or even trial. This is because NJ seems to be one of the few states that actually imposed more than a ministerial duty upon its SOS to ensure eligible candidates are on the ballot.”

God I hope so, at the very least, but this still doesn’t clear up the matter of “staying” the national election or electoral college but we’ve got to get to the truth somehow or other.

This is NOT going away. Criminal and civil defense attorneys start your engines.


56 posted on 12/05/2008 4:36:51 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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