I’ve been in jam packed subways.
As far as I’m concerned, any law abiding person should have the right to carry. I don’t think the commuters would start shooting at each other if someone brushed into them. No more than people up here would start shooting in a road rage incident, or if someone stole their parking space, etc. People who go thru the trouble to get the CCW are not the ones I worry about, and some of the criminals on the subways are already carrying. Besides, not everyone would choose to carry, probably only a minority, just like in “shall issue” states.
I rode the LIRR too, when Colin Ferguson had his little racist shooting fit. I bet lives would have been saved if there were a few people who had carry permits.
I understand your point, but I think the argument goes both ways.
Yes, my point is that it *does* go both ways, and there are valid points on all sides.
As for the Colin Ferguson shooting spree, that was all (or virtually all) Long Islanders involved, not NYC residents. That said, it's next to impossible to get a carry permit there, too. (I've seen the Nassau County application and it is obvious that an ordinary citizen will not be issued a permit to carry, unless that person is in a high-risk business or has some other massively compelling reason, as determined by the NCPD.)