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To: wndawmn666
All Citizens of the United States can serve as Senators and Representatives. They cannot serve as President. Citizens under the 14th amendment cannot be President. They all have the SAME type of citizenship.

The 14th Amendment does not deal with the issue of natural-born citizenship. It was meant to address that fact that slaves were not being treated as citizens in the former Confederate States. The 14th Amendment makes it clear that if you are born in that US and subject to US jurisdiction, then you are a citizen. That's it. You're reading more into it than is there.

569 posted on 12/05/2008 7:50:19 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

No, I am not reading into it too much. You aren’t reading it properly.

The 14th Amendment deems ‘citizenship’ to those who are either:

BORN in the United States AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof

OR

NATURALIZED in the United States AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Barack Obama would fall into the first category and so would an ‘anchor baby’. Both by being BORN on US soil AND being subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They are citizens of the United States as defined in the 14th Amendment.

Arnold would fall into the second because he was NATURALIZED in the United States AND was subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

The 14h Amendment grants the same ‘level’ of citizenship to all three people. If Arnold can’t serve because he is ‘only’ a citizen of the United States, then neither can Barack Obama or Wong Kim Ark because they are ‘only’ citizens of the United States as well.

There are two types of citizens:

(1)Natural born citizens of the United States (can be President)

(2)Citizens of the United States (cannot be President)

Barack is a citizen of the United States (BORN in US to one foreign citizen)

Arnold is a citizen of the United States (NATURALIZED)

Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of the United States (BORN in the US to two foreign citizen)

A natural born citizen requires no STATUTE to achieve their natural born citizenship.

Obama, Arnold, and Anchor Baby all receive their citizenship via the SAME Statute (14th Amendment).


576 posted on 12/05/2008 8:50:55 AM PST by wndawmn666
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To: Citizen Blade

“The 14th Amendment does not deal with the issue of natural-born citizenship. It was meant to address that fact that slaves were not being treated as citizens in the former Confederate States. The 14th Amendment makes it clear that if you are born in that US and subject to US jurisdiction, then you are a citizen. That’s it. You’re reading more into it than is there.”

The 14th amendment specifies who is a citizen at the time of their birth, and people who are citizens at the time of their birth are natural born citizens. That’s what “natural born citizen” means.


654 posted on 12/05/2008 6:40:31 PM PST by Tublecane
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