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To: Reno232
what's your take on my post 551 in regards to the faith vs. works issue?

MY "take" is that "works" that would pass the test of God, would NOT include such things as pleasing God by NOT drinking wine, coffee, tea, by wearing special clothing, by having to answer to a "mortal man" in order to be deemed "worthy", by baptizing for the dead via proxy, by accepting a "living prophet" who is "consecrated" to that office by mortal men who hold an imaginary "priesthood"...etc. etc.

Our role is to do His will so that we may be glorified BY God. Both of you as ex-members should know that.

BTW, I don't know where you got the idea that Colofornian is an ex. That's something I must have missed.

632 posted on 12/05/2008 7:54:33 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: greyfoxx39

So, am I to conclude from your response that you now see works (albeit not the works you set forth) as a part of being “saved”? Maybe we’re making progress here.


634 posted on 12/05/2008 8:08:41 AM PST by Reno232
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To: Colofornian

Forgot to ping you to 632


635 posted on 12/05/2008 8:11:00 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Reno232; DelphiUser
BTW, I don't know where you got the idea that Colofornian is an ex. That's something I must have missed.

I'm from a family of "ex-s"...Otherwise, in Mormon-talk, I'm only a gentile apostate...not a personal jack mormon apostate.

[Boy, how do LDS keep their categories of "apostates" straight is pure wonderment...especially since DelphiUser muddied the waters a bit more when he said: "You cannot be apostate unless you were a member of the church and left." ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122728/posts?q=1&;page=281 )]

So I guess to some/most Mormons...
...I'm a gentile apostate...
...to others I'm blood-tied to jack Mormon apostates...
...but to DelphiUser I'm technically NOT an apostate (just a spiritual descendent of them; but I'm a spiritual descendent of faithful Mormons, too)
...on-the-other hand I'm certain I've been proxy baptized as a Mormon...so...

...I guess that makes me a gentile-apostate-blood-tied-jack-Mormon-apostate-technically-NOT-an-apostate-proxy-baptized-"Mormon" :)

But to clarify, Reno, I'm not offended by your accusatory assumption from your post. I identify enough solidarity-wise with my jack-Mormon family members that you might as well be talkin' 'bout me personally.

691 posted on 12/05/2008 12:05:28 PM PST by Colofornian
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