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To: Scotswife
What the gays really want is for churches to be declared “hate” organizations and shut down.

Where do you find that information?

A wee bit of hyperbole here?

Some of the gays that I have known in my life I met at church, AND I might add at mormon churches.

While I don't approve of what the gays are doing, I think the tendency to demonize them overlooks the fact that they are US citizens, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters and as YET are not required to wear a gold star on their sleeve.

An awfully lot of posts on FR would appear to want to do away with their rights as citizens because they are availing themselves of First Amendment rights.

253 posted on 12/03/2008 1:08:05 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: greyfoxx39

It really is quite ironic that the gays are accusing the Mormons of hate, the Mormons are accusing the gays of hate, and the Mormons are accusing their own detractors of hate.

All these charges of hatred are simply a means of shutting down healthy debate - a vital component of free speech.

If Mormons continue to try and squelch freedom of speech, they might find THEMSELVES under charges of hate speech against the gay community.


258 posted on 12/03/2008 1:17:53 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I should have been more specific...these particular gays who made this ad and are demonizing the mormons.

It isn’t like mormons are the “only” ones who voted against prop 8, but they are an easy target because the media made them a scapegoat here.

“An awfully lot of posts on FR would appear to want to do away with their rights as citizens because they are availing themselves of First Amendment rights.”

I don’t know what rights anyone wants to “take away” from them.
I haven’t seen anyone suggest armbands either.

What I do see is that an issue went up for a vote and they lost.
They lost fair and square.

So now they want to demonize the mormons because the mormons dared to exercise their right to vote their conscience.

Tough noogies.


413 posted on 12/03/2008 9:16:14 PM PST by Scotswife
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