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To: texas12joe; melancholy

And I disagree 100% with you, texas12joe.

This has nothing to do with Innocence and everything to do with Eligibility for the Office of President.

Don’t confuse the issues at hand.

Obama has not proven his eligibility. It is as simple as that.

No person other than Barack Hussein Obama Jr and perhaps Michelle has seen his original birth certificate (if he still has one), not even the Great State of Hawaii officials. They just say there is one stored in a vault per procedures.

And don’t give me any rigamarole about copies of certificates. It is obvious they don’t have a problem showing ‘proof’ via copies. So let’s have the real thing.

The Democratic Party led by Howard Dean fell flat on their collective asses on this one in vetting the candidates and assuming The Messiah was eligible.

I do think he will be elected by the electors and become POTUS, don’t misunderstand me.

The majority on the SCOTUS will not want to cause a revolution in this country if they toss Barack out on his ears due to lack of proper qualification.

Better that the Constitution be perverted then have an insurrection by the Left, will be their thinking.


148 posted on 12/03/2008 9:41:06 AM PST by Sparko
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To: Sparko

“Better that the Constitution be perverted then have an insurrection by the Left, will be their thinking.”

I hope that if he is found ineligible, the above statement does NOT turn out to be accurate.


158 posted on 12/03/2008 9:55:34 AM PST by motoman
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To: Sparko; texas12joe
Better that the Constitution be perverted then have an insurrection by the Left, will be their (SCOTUS) thinking. Parenthesis are mine.

This is how Communism takes hold in a bloodless coup. Little lefty violations are not worth violence. More and larger lefty violations are not worth a civil war. Results: a de facto communist rule including "preventing potential violence" by disarming the population. Huh? What Second Amendment? The constitution is a living document, blah..blah..blah..

In fact, the feared lefty insurrection could be a blessing forcing Americans to resolve this shiite, once and for all.

162 posted on 12/03/2008 9:59:08 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Sparko

Look what the AD made the MSM do? They promptly dismissed the birth certificate allegations and citizenship issues.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama-ad-03-dec03,0,3124041.story

Here are the allegations raised in Schulz’s ad, and some relevant facts:

•The birth form released by Obama was “an unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited” live birth form, Schulz says.

Last summer, Obama’s campaign presented a digital copy of his certificate of live birth. After critics questioned its authenticity, staff at FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said they had seen, held and examined the actual birth certificate.

•”Hawaiian officials will not confirm” that Obama was born in their state, Schulz says.

Initially, Hawaiian officials said that privacy laws prevented them from releasing a copy or confirming that Obama’s copy was authentic. But in late October as questions persisted, Hawaii’s health director and head of vital statistics reviewed Obama’s birth certificate in the department’s vault and vouched for its authenticity.

•Schulz says that legal affidavits state Obama was born in Kenya.

The affidavits that Schulz refers to are filings by the Obama critics themselves in the court cases challenging Obama’s citizenship.


189 posted on 12/03/2008 10:25:33 AM PST by texas12joe
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