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If that omission was enough to raise doubts about the incoming administration's commitment to a rocket some believe will prove much tougher to field than NASA is ready to admit, the five-page list of questions Obama's NASA transition team sent to the agency Nov. 24 probably will not make Ares supporters feel any better.

The questionnaire, "NASA Presidential Transition Team Requests for Information," asks agency officials to provide the latest information on Ares 1, Orion and the planned Ares 5 heavy-lift cargo launcher, and to calculate the near-term close-out costs and longer-term savings associated with canceling those programs.

1 posted on 12/01/2008 2:22:01 PM PST by Joiseydude
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One thing I’ve never understood is why conservatives are more supportive of space exploration than liberals. In fact, I think conservatives are even more likely to support government funding of a space program than liberals.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 2:23:37 PM PST by kc8ukw
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I could see eliminating NASA and asking for private companies to bid on taking passengers to and from the Space Station.

And I live in Alabama, one of the states that gets a ton of NASA money.

3 posted on 12/01/2008 2:24:59 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I'm gonna drop talk radio in favor of some audio books. Gotta lower my blood pressure.)
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Who needs technology when we have the gubbermint funded pothole brigades. Before long America will look just like home sweet hut-home, Kenya.

Obama is a doofus when it comes to thinking. What does the little squirrel monkey think drives technology development, pothole repair?


4 posted on 12/01/2008 2:25:54 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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Pres Bush was doing fine until he announced his Moon, Mars, and Beyond program. That very day.


7 posted on 12/01/2008 2:27:22 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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Take away: if you’re interested in space and want to work in the industry, learn Chinese, Hindi or Russian — because the US is giving up.

Maybe a new crop of rich guys will try even harder to privatize space, but I’m not optimistic.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 2:30:37 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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This plan was originally on his website under “education”. As November approached, he took it off.

So this is nothing new, pay for education reform by killing space projects.

Elsewhere in his education package he said the space race and cold war were won by the USA having superior education! I had thought that engineering had something to do with it but I guess I was wrong and The One is right, again!


14 posted on 12/01/2008 2:31:42 PM PST by DBrow
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Everything depends on if Aries is replaced. The stick has big problems with vibration and the “Pogo” effect of the solid fuel motor. It also can barely lift the crew module so one of the two needs to be redesigned anyway. In addition it is already way over budget and massively behind schedule. Aries V is in even worse shape and in this economy it is unlikely that Aries V will ever fly.

If the plan is to dump the Pogo Stick and Aries V and build Direct 2.0 or invest adapting commercial launchers (Atlas V or Falcon 9 heavy) then GO OBAMA. And I never thought I would say that.

Unfortunately the more likely plan is to scrap the space program to throw more money into the endless hole that is the liberal socialist utopia. Why reach for the stars when you can smoke crack in the gutter.


15 posted on 12/01/2008 2:32:35 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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JFK vowed to go to the moon. Obama basically tells the moon to go to hell. Perhaps, he’ll outsource this work to India or China. Not the Hope and Change I’m looking for.


18 posted on 12/01/2008 2:33:33 PM PST by sono (What happens when the Kool Aid wears off?)
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I agree to cutting back on wasting money on NASA. Manned space flight is a huge waste of time. The sooner we stop deluding ourselves about the notion of inter-planetary travel, the better.


22 posted on 12/01/2008 2:35:34 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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Four times during the his presidential campaign Obama changed his position on NASA depending when he received criticism. First he said he wanted to transfer NASA funding to education, then reversed course when he got some flack. A few months later, Obama again said he wanted to cut NASA funding to go somewhere else. He went later on to deny what he said.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 2:40:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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Outsource space.


25 posted on 12/01/2008 2:41:44 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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The Russians copied our shuttle and never had a chance to launch it . If they could build it from a scale model sold at Toys R us, why can’t we build a few new ones to replace the old ? Maybe we ought to outsource it to Toyota .


29 posted on 12/01/2008 2:46:12 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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In 12 years we’ll be looking to the Chinese space program for leadership.


30 posted on 12/01/2008 2:47:15 PM PST by nufsed (Privatize 2 prisons)
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Son of a __ would rather spend money on bailing out student loans and free national health care for deadbeats , not to mention a variety of other make work BS. As long as it goes to his “sponsors” (which dont include NASA)


33 posted on 12/01/2008 2:50:03 PM PST by Nonstatist
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You go for it, Hussein. Slash that to make sure you have enough money to give to the Palestinians and the Abortionists.


34 posted on 12/01/2008 2:50:23 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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Of course. Next the Messiah will want how to get ACORN involved in NASA.


38 posted on 12/01/2008 2:51:48 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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But, but, but ... he promised!!! he specifically came to Brevard County, Florida to say so. Obama lied; jobs are fried. Perhaps it has something to do with McCain's margin of victory in the home county of KSC.

I knew that [expletive x5] didn't mean it! Of course, his transition team and Conyers will do the dirty work. Obama will cite "the Will of the People as voiced by Congress" as his reason to renege on his pledge. Watch that theme to be repeated over and over. McCain was an idiot for letting so many false promises go unchallenged.

39 posted on 12/01/2008 2:51:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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I can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with Obama...

Please make NASA explain why they want to re-invent the wheel with the Ares 1 instead of using the off-the-shelf Delta IV Heavy.

And no, make work for shuttle workers isn’t an adequate answer.


45 posted on 12/01/2008 2:53:52 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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Just think. If we scrapped NASA, we could afford to take away every newborn child and put them in Early Education Preschools from Day 1.


49 posted on 12/01/2008 2:56:02 PM PST by Yaelle
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U.S. President-elect Barack Obama's NASA transition team is asking U.S. space agency officials to quantify how much money could be saved by canceling the Ares 1 rocket and scaling back the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle next year.

Look for the USA to have a space program like Cuba, Kenya, and other third world countries as we spiral down via experimenting with socialist and Marxist failed policies; and then experiencing the subsequent economic collapse.

We are well on our way with the financial crisis that is the result of stealth socialism used by the Democrats to put poor people into houses that they could not afford. All they have to do is increase taxes to pay for their stupid policies.

58 posted on 12/01/2008 3:04:48 PM PST by olezip
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