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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Oh well ... forget it. To Joy and to people like her the rich are evil, and there’s no changing that. The poor are only poor because rich people made them that way. Joy will remain poor .. she’s programmed that way. Sad.”

There’s so much here, it’s hard to be concise. It’s not all black and white, much as I’d like it to be, (I hate grey areas). Not all people who are poor, are poor because they are incapable. Some people really do have bad breaks.

However, the vast majority of poor people are as described, poor because of poor decisions, or lack of effort, or, most likely, both. That’s why we all know wealth distribution doesn’t work. Taking money from those who know how to use it, and giving it to those who don’t have a clue won’t help anyone in the long run.

But here we are, and this is the real problem: We are in a republic where people can vote themselves entitlements. Our culture worships wealth, but demonizes the wealthy. The poor are told over and over how evil the rich are, (except celebrities of course), and the overwhelming result is the poor have no problem voting themselves benefits at the expense of the “rich”.

My disclaimer: I am not wealthy, except in the view of Obama’s tax plans maybe. I most likely could have been wealthy, but I didn’t want to make the trade, (being away from home, sweating risks, long hours, etc.). I am where I am, I’m fine with that. And I don’t begrudge those who are rich, in general, they’ve sacrificed to get there.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 7:55:57 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: brownsfan

Agree. There are some bad breaks. I think of layoffs, for instance. But, find a way to rise above it.

Now, there are some circumstances, such as a battle with cancer wiping out savings even with insurance etc.....that in these cases, it truly is just a sucky break. In those times, I think people should help them out by giving them some money to assist in covering medical bills etc.


8 posted on 12/01/2008 7:58:24 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: brownsfan
Taking money from those who know how to use it, and giving it to those who don’t have a clue won’t help anyone in the long run.

They realize that. The primary goal of leftists is to take the rich down several notches, not enrich the poor. Leftists exploit the poor as cover, using them as a socially acceptable excuse to pillage the rich. Their interest in the poor is mainly as a source of nourishment for their narcissistic egos. They don't care that government takes a 50% shave of any wealth transfer. If they can't have the wealth for themselves they will settle for wanton wealth destruction.

25 posted on 12/01/2008 8:49:36 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: brownsfan

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust, anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and injustice.

They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed, disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no responsibility for their problems. None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking, lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or defects in character.

None of the victims’ plight is caused by failure to plan for the future or learn from experience. Instead, the “root causes” of all this pain lie in faulty social conditions: poverty, disease, war, ignorance, unemployment, racial prejudice, ethnic and gender discrimination, modern technology, capitalism, globalization and imperialism.

In the radical liberal mind, this suffering is inflicted on the innocent by various predators and persecutors: “Big Business,” “Big Corporations,” “greedy capitalists,” U.S. Imperialists,” “the oppressors,” “the rich,” “the wealthy,” “the powerful” and “the selfish.”


31 posted on 12/01/2008 10:11:37 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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