I’ve been trying to ignore this whole chain - but your last argument finally brought me around.
I’m a US natural born (ggggggrandad was in the rev), my wife is Japanese and a legal resident alien. As her english is soso after 15 years she still wants to retain her Japanese citizenship in case something should happen to me. My kids are dual citizens until 18, then because Japan doesn’t recognize dual citizenship they choose.
I’ve already asked all the questions of the legal types out of my own perverted sense of curiosity - the kids are considered natural born since they were born in the US...period. There is no way to tell them differently anyway...docs are the same.
Your argument on the foreign nationals serving under their soveriegn rule is correct (as you know), but I just wanted to back it up with my own personal experience.
This is the same reason that McCain is considered natural born - both parents were US citizens where his dad was serving overseas. One point most people miss though is the base, similar to an embassy is considered soveriegn territory. The argument that he was born off base is resolved by the foreign soveriegn rule. You don’t disqualify based on you parents doing their job.
Note that they don’t spell out legal or illegal ‘resident aliens’. Which has been the anchor baby issue for some time.
Actually that is incorrect. McCain is not a natural born U.S. citizen because he was born on U.S. territory, be it a base or an embassy or whatever (and he was actually born in a civilian hospital in Colon, I believe). McCain is a natural born U.S. citizen because both his parents were U.S. citizens who had resided in the United States for a number of years prior to his birth. That's according to U.S. law. As for your children, without knowing all the particulars I would venture to say they are natural born U.S. citizens for one of two reasons. Either they were born in the States, and your wife's nationality and their dual citizenship has no bearing on that. Or they were born abroad and obtained their natural born citizenship through you, as a U.S. citizen above a certain age who had resided in the U.S. for the requisite number of years. In any case, should your children be insane enough to want to run for office then there is no reason why we couldn't be voting for them for president in a few decades.