Update on Barack Obama's Birth Certificate Issue

Right Side News ^ | November 30, 2008

[Red Steel]

Citizenship Issue on MSNBC Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth.

This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means. By nature, the child, would be only a US citizen, because both of his parents were US citizens, and NO OTHER NATION, can by law claim him to be under their jurisdiction, at the moment of his birth. That was not the case with Obama. He was, by law, a Citizen of the United Kingdom, the moment he was born, and then, by law, he became a citizen of Kenya on Dec. 12, 1963.

For a more detailed explaination of natural born citizen, see my other related video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKN...

[HawaiianGecko]

 By the way, you might want to study up on “narcissim” and “Barack Obama”. It is not narcissistic to want to know everything about our so-called “president-elect”. Barack Obama is a walking, talking, extreme narcissist.

What is narcissistic is your belief that you and a small handful of people with this persistent belief, believe that you are smarter than the entire RNC with millions of dollars to run this story to ground.

I'm reading this thread backwards by the way in case you're wondering why my responses are in this particular order.  I'm not certifiably crazy, though I've been told I'm a carrier of it.

[HawaiianGecko]

 "Tripping over your Obama kneepads, eh?"   Did it take you a long time to come up with something that brilliant?

[HawaiianGecko]

 "Bullshit. You apply for the job, you are responsible for proving your credentials for the job."
Gee, I didn't know it was that cut and dried.  Thanks for straightening me out.  What makes you think he didn't?

[MHGinTN]

Nope, it’s easy when reading the droppings of a poster playing ‘professional obnoxious one’. I see why you value an attorney on retainer and a passport in the glove box. Arrogant asshats like you need such escape mechanisms ... and it feeds your delusions of grandeur.

[nufsed]

I sent an e-mail to the secretary of state in Cal. She said that she was not reponsible for verifying qualifications. She said the parties were responsible. In answer to the question, "What makes you think he didn't show his birth certificate."

Lastly, I know you have a lot of psych background, as do I. IMO innocent people do not do what he's doing.

[HawaiianGecko]

 "And...everyone of those presidents and vice presidents has dozens upon dozens of witnesses to their newborn infancy"
You're not making a serious legal argument are you?  Ten bucks says Abraham Lincoln didn't have anyone other than his mother as a witness when he took office.  My oldest son was born ten days after I was transferred to a new base.  Five days after I arrived I left for a TDY about 2500 miles away and didn't get back until both my wife and son had returned home to our apartment.  There are no witnesses to his birth other than medical staff and his mother.  Does that mean he was born in Kenya?

Here's the real kicker.  You're simply trying to prove a negative.  How do you know that there aren't 100's of witnesses to his birth.  Have you interviewed the planet already? 

[HawaiianGecko]

 "Lastly, I know you have a lot of psych background, as do I. IMO innocent people do not do what he's doing."

In my humble opinion, we have never had an innocent president.  Well, maybe Carter, but you get my point.  I'll never vote for a Mr. Rogers type.

[HawaiianGecko]

 "and it feeds your delusions of grandeur."
Yeah, you're probably right.   Feel better now?

[kitchen]

So maybe Stanley stopped by the American embassy before departing Mombasa. They only people who know for sure are those subcontractors plumbers who pulled his passport records a while back.

[Red Steel]

I answered my own reply to you in post 177.

;-)

[Velveeta]

Well, if your mother and a few of your son’s siblings said they witnessed your son’s birth in Kenya - you might just want to check with your wife to see if she traveled out of the country...

[Hostage]

My understanding is that a birth certificate was not displayed on the Obama website but rather a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ or COLB for short. A BC and a COLB are not the same.

Obama’s BC has never been shown and he has attorneys that have acted to block any attempt on having Hawaii release his certified BC. This is the root of the controversy, that he has chosen to block any attempt to get at his BC. The reasons given for such action are said to be based on privacy which many believe is bunk because a BC for a Presidential Candidate could reveal no information useful for identify theft. Futhermore, releasing a BC by a Presidential Candidate could be redacted by an official that was qualified to certify authenticity of a BC, or under seal of a court.

So there is no compelling reason why Obama would spend resources on attorneys to block a release of his BC. It can only be he is hiding something, either a defect in his natural born status or an embarrassing inconsistency/inaccuracy/falsehood with his published self-biography and history account.

[dcwusmc]

He may well have been born in Texas, but if any other nation holds a claim on his loyalty because of dual citizenship, then I believe the law says he is not “Natural Born” due to his divided loyalties. He is a US citizen at birth, but if he’s also a citizen (subject) of the UK, he has a loyalty problem right there.

[CaribouCrossing]

It simply DOES matter why he’s spending money and effort to conceal his records. If I was going to hired someone to drive my grandchildren to school and that person refused to release his records, I can darn well guarantee you this....that person will NOT be hired.

You are full of liberal talking points, HG. If what you say is true and you are older than me (though I never told you how old I was...only that I was over 50)...then you’re one of those folks that hasn’t learned a dang thing in all the years since you were born.

I bet you do hope that Obama is “wildly successful”. However, to admit that you hope he is “wildly successful” would mean that you hope that his agenda will be successful. I do NOT hope Obama is “wildly successful”. I hope every hope, change and dream of his is thrown out the door because I believe his hopes, chanes and dreams for this country will bring about the destruction of our country. In case you haven’t noticed, Obama believes in Socialism, Marxism, and Communism. Is that enough “isms” for ya?

If you don’t know that by now, you’re a gecko whose head is fully buried in the sand.

You said, “I’m looking out for the good of my country!” To that I say, “thank God you aren’t in our military!” If this is your idea of looking out for the good of our country, then I say, you’re “good” ain’t good enough.

You asked me, “ Exactly what is it that you are trying to accomplish?” I’m trying to stand up for our country and demand that those who wish to become our President and Commander in Chief of our military be forthcoming with pertinent information about themselves.

HawaiianGecko, why don’t you answer MY question. Why do YOU think Obama is hiding his b.c. and other records?? What exactly are YOU trying to accomplish by making excuses for Obama’s list of lies and secrets?

[dcwusmc]

Not necessarily. Again, it’s a divided allegiance/loyalty issue.

[CaribouCrossing]

“That’s kind of funny since I’ve was married to a PhD psychologist for 18 years and then an MD psychiatrist for another 10. I’m a bit past Psych 101.”

So, you’ve been married to a psychologist (18 years) and then a psychiatrist for another 10 years. Yea, you’re a bit past “psych 101”. ROFL! Even a psych couldn’t keep nor cure ya, hey? ;)

[CaribouCrossing]

“What is narcissistic is your belief that you and a small handful of people with this persistent belief, believe that you are smarter than the entire RNC with millions of dollars to run this story to ground.

I’m reading this thread backwards by the way in case you’re wondering why my responses are in this particular order. I’m not certifiably crazy, though I’ve been told I’m a carrier of it.”

“Handful of people”??? You really are dillusional, HG. Even up here in Alaska, Obama’s B.C., and lack thereof, is being talked about in the “bush”. LOL!

You said, “I’m reading this thread backwards by the way in case you’re wondering why my responses are in this particular order. I’m not certifiably crazy, though I’ve been told I’m a carrier of it.”

Are you naturally dyslexic or is just something you do to kill time? You may not be “certifiable”, but I’ll leave it to those who apparently know you very well and accept that you are a “carrier of it”.

I think you’re a young wipper-snapper who is playing games when you could be playing splishy-splashy in the shallow end of the DU pool.

[Eye of Unk]

Freepers are you getting bored, too much Thanksgiving turkey? Join the Whac a mole club! To join just post a valid argument against Obama being eligible to be nominated to be President, and up pops the MOLE!

[BP2]

HawaiianGecko, LOL!

If you’re the dedicated Obot troll for this thread, I sure hope you’re earning “time and a half” — it’s still a holiday weekend.

[dcwusmc]

His paternal grandmother says she witnessed his birth... in Kenya. So far she’s the only known witness. Your turn...