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Doves keep the faith as Obama team tilts right (building panic in Leftie Land)
Politico ^ | 11/27/08 | Martin

Posted on 11/27/2008 7:42:25 AM PST by pabianice

Leading opponents of the war have mostly been silent as president-elect Barack Obama, who first built his national image on the foundation of his early opposition to the Iraq war, assembles a group of national security hands that is anything but a team of doves.

It's a disorienting moment for the peace wing of the Democratic Party, at once elated America selected a new president opposed to the Iraq war and momentarily disoriented by the imminent removal of a commander-in-chief whose every action they've opposed for the past eight years.

“Shock has paralyzed them for the moment,” said Steven Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation who writes The Washington Note, a popular foreign policy blog. “We are in an Obama bubble now. And it’s tough to step out and be first to deflate the bubble.”

Especially, he added, before that bubble takes shape.

“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

Still, it’s clearly a team that tilts to the right of Democratic foreign policy thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; bhodod; bhogwot; bhosecdef; obama; obamatransitionfile
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To: Hawthorn

I read “Stalin” as “Satan” upon seeing it.


61 posted on 11/27/2008 8:56:46 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: misterrob
Obama is a very smart man. It will take a determined and united coalition to beat him.
62 posted on 11/27/2008 9:00:51 AM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: mylife
I think its delicious that the guy isnt even in office yet, and already the bloom is off the rose L0L!

It will be the first Inauguration Day Impeachment!

63 posted on 11/27/2008 9:14:44 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: BigBobber
What is so hard for the lefties to understand? Why did they vote for this guy?

Like most lefties, they were cult followers and these types are so brain dead you could sell them the Brooklyn bridge. Simple minds that are in a coma will never understand, even when the crap is up to their necks.

64 posted on 11/27/2008 9:16:18 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: pabianice

They expect a twit with a Napoleonic complex to *not* act Napoleonic?

[Attention stupid, hypnotized lurking Libs...he’s gonna get us into a global war that will make WWII look like a kitten fight]


65 posted on 11/27/2008 9:16:34 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Hawthorn
So if 0bama should turn out to play the role of Stalin, then Pelosi will be exiled to Mexico à la Trotsky, and Reid will go to the Gulag as an "enemy of the people."

Wow, an Obama policy I could fully endorse...

66 posted on 11/27/2008 9:18:49 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark

We can always “Hope”!


67 posted on 11/27/2008 9:19:35 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pabianice

forget the anti-war...how will he pay for it along with all of the other stuff he wants?


68 posted on 11/27/2008 9:28:38 AM PST by ari-freedom (Turkeys belong on the Thanksgiving table, not in the White House.)
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To: freeangel

He will make Pelosi, Reid and Biden, etc. his scapegoats when things go wrong.

that would require giving America a proper civics education. Most people don’t know who pelosi is or what she does. Some people thought palin was his VP


69 posted on 11/27/2008 9:32:23 AM PST by ari-freedom (Turkeys belong on the Thanksgiving table, not in the White House.)
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To: misterrob

I think you are right.

Obama is a very very slick politician and more of a pragmatist than a doctrinnaire lib. He used the Wright Church to get into the Illinois Senate and then dumped him when he became inconvenient. He may have used the American libs for the same reason.

He made an intersting statement recently. He mentioned the number of votes he got and then the number McCain got. Obviously no landslide.

A pragmatist like him probably took the hint.

Liberal yes - but probably not so liberal than he can’t learn from experience and act appropriately to assure his coninuted political popularity.

I underestimated him. He is a lot smarter than Hillary and may be smarter than Bill Clinton.


70 posted on 11/27/2008 9:33:40 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: pabianice
“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

It's no more complex than Obama getting the dimwit democrats (and others) to vote him into the presidency. For Obama, the election wasn't about the Iraq war or the economy or "change" or "hope", it was just about Obama, "The One". It was "me, me, me" and "I, I, I", for Obama.

Like everything else that he ever tackled, he's going to skate through this job too. He'll just delegate to those with experience and hope they don't mess things up too much in the next four years. Then, it'll be time to worry about another four years for "Obama".

The Obama ego is larger than the job, and all he needs to do is to "appear presidential" and "sound presidential". As of the day he won the election, there are people who believe that he's the smartest president ever, and the best president ever, even before he has done anything at all. Can Mount Rushmore be far behind for the empty suit?
71 posted on 11/27/2008 9:37:49 AM PST by adorno
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To: ZULU

Obviously no landslide.

after $650 million, the entire MSM and vs an old guy who enjoys ticking off his base all the time.


72 posted on 11/27/2008 9:37:54 AM PST by ari-freedom (Turkeys belong on the Thanksgiving table, not in the White House.)
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To: ari-freedom

Right.

IF the economy hadn;t tanked;

IF we had a viable candidate

IF Bush wasn’t so popular,

it WOULD have been a landshlide.

Obama is very bright - he recognizes that. It MAY protect us to a degree. He may also be concerned about the legacy of being the first Black President and what it means to future Black Candidates.

This should be a VERY intersting four years.


73 posted on 11/27/2008 9:44:56 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

well this was the left’s opportunity of a lifetime. They thought they had it all when they defeated Hillary. Obama was able to take advantage of them because he could say he didn’t vote for the war. of course he didn’t! He wasn’t there at the time!


74 posted on 11/27/2008 9:53:28 AM PST by ari-freedom (Turkeys belong on the Thanksgiving table, not in the White House.)
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To: ZULU

I never underestimated Obama, but I didn’t think he would get this far. Everything played out in his favor, the financial crisis( republicans staying home, republicans having a weaker candidate)For not for this he may not have won.
Obama is no smarter than anybody else.
He’s a better politician that Hillary, but if he were smarter than Bill. He wouldn’t be using Bill’s staff.


75 posted on 11/27/2008 9:56:52 AM PST by teacherbarbie (I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
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To: pabianice
Now that he is the president elect and getting all these briefings he is starting to wake up and smell the roses. maybe Mumbai is another wake up call. If Bush can get out of office before we get a major terror strike in this country
76 posted on 11/27/2008 10:10:34 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: muawiyah

[He doesn’t last four years. Not that he won’t hold office, but he’s going to be ignored by events.]

He has been set up to become a great mediocrity. By definition, he cannot achieve his promises (there is no way to tax yourself to prosperity, leaving Iraq would lead to a bloodbath, etc.). Expectations are set so high among the slumbering class that he cannot help but be a disappointment.

What happens when the Messiah can only make koolaid and not wine?


77 posted on 11/27/2008 11:49:41 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: jabonz08

[Remember, we are Americans and as Conservatives are the last line of defense. THAT LINE MUST HOLD AT ALL COSTS! WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER. NEVER. ]

Hear Hear!


78 posted on 11/27/2008 11:51:21 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: omega4179

Should have made a vanity thread out of that one ~ Bush policies and Clintonista’s stealing all the glory.


79 posted on 11/27/2008 3:12:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ShandaLear
Mark my words, Obama’s biggest opponents, obstacles, and problems will come from the left and not the right. Reid and Pelosi are just two of them.

My Dad has been saying since the election that his biggest 'problem' will come from the 'reparations blacks' that don't get gas put in their cars or have their mortgages paid.

He's in trouble and WAY over his head. Trying to hold the office of POTUS will clearly be above his pay grade.

80 posted on 11/29/2008 11:47:23 AM PST by houeto
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