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To: sickoflibs
I will say we have to be careful about battles on issues like Stem Cell research, Terry Shivo, and a federal law banning all abortions.

The problem is that the LIBs love to tie us in knots by trying to legislate society. I realize what you are getting at, but we must stand up and fight some of the tough battles.

I would say that the Terry Shaivo battle was a bit disgusting. Here you had NO written record of Terry's wishes, only hearsay from her ex-husband and you had a family that wished to keep her alive.

Pretty sure the pro-life battle is not for a Federal Ban on all abortions.

And on Stem Cell research, we actually made a winning argument, but right now we have VERY BAD COMMUNICATORS on our side. Why continue to allow embryos to be created for research when much more viable stem cells can be gathered from adults, umbilical cords and bone marrow.
111 posted on 11/26/2008 9:03:31 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: Kerretarded

RE : “I realize what you are getting at, but we must stand up and fight some of the tough battles. “

We won with Bush Stem cell veto temporarily, but all that is gone now, so we won nothing, just held on to lose a bigger battle (I am not saying that is why we lost, read further) . If GWB was very popular he could just veto things that lose opinion polls. But for him to mandate these things, without winning a PR battle, and while being very unpopular (similar to Carter) was a disaster, and setup Palin.

To win elections we need the Christian base but we need non-Christians too. That comes from selling ideas. It comes from focus groups. It comes from prioritizing battles. Look at leftist Pelosi. She shelved Sheenan Moonbats to slaughter republicans in two elections, by focusing on GWB. Now they will try to keep us from focusing on Obama. We need Obama to do things we can alarm people about.

Reporters were able to frame abortion questions to McCain in a way to make it look like McCain would outlaw ALL abortions. If he was confident and smart he would have sold public on why Alito/Roberts/Scalia/Thomas are for freedom in ordered society. But it looked like (set up) to viewers Mccain was promoting a christian dictatorship. Scalia is great at selling the constitution and freedom. Neither McCain or Palin looked like they had a clue when asked about justices (to McCain it was just a talking point, to Palin she probably never thought much about it.)


122 posted on 11/26/2008 9:50:29 AM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA")
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