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Runaway Taxpayers (Like Yours Truly, Those Who Can Will Leave California Alert)
Flash Report ^ | 11/21/2008 | Jon Coupal

Posted on 11/21/2008 9:35:31 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: MPJackal
You Kalifornians come to other states and try to implement the same policies you left CA for and screw up our states.

I am afraid you may have a point. My recent experience includes a discussion with a new Texas resident, recently arrived from California. He seemed pretty reasonable on the surface, but soon announced he was a liberal who had voted for Obama. We agreed on very little after that. Perhaps a residency requirement involving 5-10 years residence before a California transplant can vote in their new state would be a good idea. I am not sure whether to use a sarcasm tag here or not.

61 posted on 11/21/2008 5:52:23 PM PST by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: dragnet2
lol...I checked my handi dandy weather site...Looks like about 37 in your neck of the woods right now, going down to about 24 degrees tonight...I didn't think winter started until December?

Laugh away. While you were sitting inside surfing the web, I was out riding my motorcycle on perfectly dry streets with sunshine and blue skies. I have more room in my refrigerator too...all the cold drinks are just stacked in the garage. Drinking temperature with no refrigeration expense.

Supposed to be about 77, today here. A little chilly, but we'll do our best.

I don't bother with a coat above +45F. Shirt sleeves is just fine. We don't bother turning on the heater until the daytime high drops under 32. The waste heat from computers and the refrigerator is more than adequate to stay comfortable. If I really want to warm up the house quickly, a single log in the wood burning stove suffices. I have 10 cords stacked on the basketball court.

I'm a native Californian. I know exactly what I'm missing. The fine weather is a hollow compensation for all the bad stuff.

People like sailboats in Idaho too. That's Sand Point.

Waterfalls along the Snake River are nice too.

62 posted on 11/21/2008 5:57:11 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Alia

Thanks! Nevada is hardly free of rent-seekers and red tape, but it’s nothing like California’s primitive jungles - where small businesses go to be ambushed and devoured. ;)


63 posted on 11/21/2008 6:29:58 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: pbear8
Is the City Center edifice going to be completed or abandoned?

CityCenter will get done - with Dubai's money. Fontainebleau, too. But just about everything else is in danger of being abandoned, or at least postponed for several years.

Las Vegas isn't exactly dead - it's just readjusting to realistic revenue projections after several years in Speculative Fantasyland. ;)

64 posted on 11/21/2008 6:34:24 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

My vote for dumbest statement on this thread. How would FR be different if it were based in, say, Kansas?


65 posted on 11/21/2008 6:35:56 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: Always Independent

They’ve tried that, but neither prospective state wanted the Gay Area.


66 posted on 11/21/2008 6:37:32 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: goldstategop
I was born and raised in California. I got sick of it around 1991 and moved to Colorado.

I have since moved back to California.

Partly it is because I am clinically insane (after all I was born and raised in Cali) but part of it is because this place is already ruined and can't get much worse.

It was sad to see the same nonsense slowly grabbing hold of Colorado and turning it into another California.

67 posted on 11/21/2008 6:40:48 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I have heard of the Fountainbleau but I know nothing else about it. Where is or will it be located?


68 posted on 11/21/2008 7:02:09 PM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: MayflowerMadam
someone here in CA government is kicking around the idea of a “departure tax” or “exit tax”

I think they will find a little something called the Constitution standing in their way. Of course after a few years of Obamanoids ruling us that may no longer be a problem.

69 posted on 11/21/2008 7:06:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: joeystoy

I know a state that meets your requirements, but I’m not going to say which one.


70 posted on 11/21/2008 7:13:36 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: dragnet2
LOL. There are plenty of places in the Caribbean that have wonderful weather and the ocean. For instance, Cuba. That your supreme focus is on weather says all we need to know about you.
71 posted on 11/21/2008 7:15:27 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: BooBoo1000

I remember seeing Jack Welch on the television a few years ago and he said when you see cranes in the distance as far as you can see it’s time to run. Looks like he was correct.


72 posted on 11/21/2008 7:19:50 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Doohickey
My vote for dumbest statement on this thread. How would FR be different if it were based in, say, Kansas?

No different hopefully. But one gets tired of some people's petty regionalist bigotries. There may come a day when all conservatives everywhere may need one another. There are still over 15 million conservatives in California.

Those who seek to divide us one from the other seek to weaken us.

73 posted on 11/21/2008 7:35:02 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Don’t forget, it metastatized to Northern Virginia too, right about the time I came out to CA. Just look to the results of the last election, there’s a host of founders probably metamorphosing soil from their RPMs...


74 posted on 11/21/2008 7:45:43 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows and that which governs least blows least...)
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To: joeystoy
When I told Ben that we were looking to relocate and were considering North Carolina he raised his glass and said: “Good. We’ll turn that red state blue in no time.”

You WALKED AWAY FROM THAT?!?! Man, you should have read him the riot act! As in "Hey DUMBASS, that's why you're leaving here in the first place!!!"

75 posted on 11/21/2008 7:49:07 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows and that which governs least blows least...)
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To: goldstategop

Ironically, as productive citizens continue to flee California the remaining population has a resulting greater percentage of bums, losers, and parasites - - you know, the Democrat “base”. ...Which in turn leads to more electoral victories for Democrats, and therefore even higher taxes. ...Leading to more flight by producers.

I see no way this cycle can be broken.


76 posted on 11/21/2008 7:57:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MayflowerMadam

They’re stupid then, it would fail just like the higher “non CA car tax” that choked because it violates the interstate commerce clause...


77 posted on 11/21/2008 8:08:03 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows and that which governs least blows least...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
lol! Very well put.

'Twas my own small business which forced me into the lion's den in California, and between the Clinton Admin and CA Dems, all but devoured me and mine. It is rough and tough here in NC; but rough and tough - different from CA.

It's just so, shall I say, stupid -- to read these liberal articles slamming the south when in fact life is no rose-bowl in any state; some states work harder at remaining free than others.

States like CA and Mass. make life far harder than needs be for humans and other living beings--just so that a political "ideology" can survive.

I'm quite sure the Endangered Species Act is merely the foil to hide the "real" endangered "ideology" afoot and running rampant through liberalism. It's really quite like the Southern phrase "might/could".

78 posted on 11/21/2008 8:59:56 PM PST by Alia
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Did you grow up in the San Fernando Valley?

I have a website that may interest you. Some of the pictures may bring back some old memories...

http://www.americassuburb.com


79 posted on 11/21/2008 9:46:29 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
That your supreme focus is on weather says all we need to know about you.

You seem angry...LOL..

Ya see, I hate the cold, and extreme heat with high humidity makes me want to commit mass murder.

That's why I don't live in places like that. Been there done that in the service.

I love my piece of California. Sorry that seems to bother you.

:o

80 posted on 11/21/2008 11:39:06 PM PST by dragnet2
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