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Is Gay The New Black, As Homosexual Activists Suggest? (No. It's still the old pervert.)
The Bulletin ^ | 11/20/2008 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/20/2008 5:05:41 AM PST by IbJensen

"Gay is the new black" is one of the mottos of the movement to redefine marriage to include two people of the same sex.

The likening of the movement for same-sex marriage to the black civil rights struggle is a primary argument of pro same-sex marriage groups. This comparison is a major part of the moral appeal of redefining marriage: Just as there were those who once believed that blacks and whites should not be allowed to be married, the argument goes, there are today equally bigoted individuals who believe that men should not be allowed to marry men and women should not be allowed to marry women.

It is worth noting that the people least impressed with the comparison of the gay struggle to redefine marriage with the black struggle for racial equality are blacks. They voted overwhelmingly for California's Proposition 8 which amends the California Constitution to define marriage as being the union of a man and a woman.

One reason given is that blacks tend to be socially conservative. But another, less verbalized, reason may well be that blacks find the comparison demeaning and insulting. As well they should.

One has to either be ignorant of segregation laws and the routine humiliations experienced by blacks during the era of Jim Crow, or one has to be callous to black suffering, to equate that to a person not being allowed to marry a person of the same sex. They are not in the same moral universe.

There is in fact no comparison between the situation of gays in America in 2008 and the situation of most black Americans prior to the civil rights era. Gays are fully accepted, and as a group happen to constitute one of the wealthiest in American life. Moreover, not being allowed to marry a person of the same sex is not anti-gay; it is pro-marriage as every civilization has defined it. The fact is that states like California already grant people who wish to live and love a member of the same sex virtually every right that marriage bestows except the word "married."

A certain number of gay men will feel better if they can call their partner "husband" and some lesbians will enjoy calling their partner "wife," but society as a whole is not benefitted by such a redefinition of those words.

Society as a whole does not benefit by removing, as California did, the words "bride" and "groom" from marriage licenses and substituting "Partner A" and "Partner B."

But hoping that the more radical gays and straights of the gay rights movement will ask "what benefits society?" before "what makes some gays feel better?" is useless.

And so, the movement appropriates the symbols and rhetoric of the back civil rights struggle when that struggle and the movement to redefine marriage have next to nothing in common. How can a seriously moral individual compare forcing a black bus rider to sit in the back of a bus or to give up his seat to a white who demands it, or prohibiting a black human being from drinking from the same water fountain or eating at the same lunch counter as a white human being, or being denied the right to vote, or being prohibited from attending a school with whites, let alone being periodically lynched, to either the general gay condition today or specifically to being given the "right" to redefine marriage for society?

The vast majority of Americans, including those who oppose same-sex marriage, know that the homosexual is created in God's image every bit as much as is the heterosexual; and acknowledge that the gay man or woman has a right to love whom he or she wants and that commitment has the right to be given legal protections.

But radically redefining the most important institution in the life of a civilization; and routinely labeling as the moral equivalent of racists every individual who does not want children regularly asked whether they will marry a boy or a girl when grown up, and who rightly fears that every traditional religious community will be labeled as a hate group - these are not commensurate with civil rights.

Gay and straight activists who liken their demand to redefine marriage to black suffering under Jim Crow merely cheapen historic black suffering. Most blacks know this but for the sake of their political coalition won't say it. They should. Rosa Parks is in a different moral category than the protesters against Proposition 8.

Dennis Prager hosts a nationally syndicated radio talk show and is a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.


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Homosexuals are just like everyone else.

They want top jobs, they want to get married and 'raise' a family and want to either get buried up to their eyebrows in their 'work' or shove their pee-pees up another's poo-poo.

Additionally they want to legally get their hands on the children of America.

1 posted on 11/20/2008 5:05:42 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Is Gay The New Black?

If so, then wouldn't that make this whacko some sort of prophet...? ;)


2 posted on 11/20/2008 5:09:36 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: IbJensen

Not if you ask most blacks. In fact, they seem to highly resent the comparison.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 5:10:29 AM PST by edpc
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To: IbJensen

Some Gays are known for self indulgence, and it stops at nothing, now the Noble Civil Rights Movement is next on the activist gay agenda for co-option and obscuring.

There is no honest comparison to be made between the two, yet that does not stop the advocates from trying...


4 posted on 11/20/2008 5:13:40 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile...Rom 10.10..)
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To: IbJensen
“No juthith... no peith!”


5 posted on 11/20/2008 5:23:44 AM PST by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: padre35

Gay people can get married now if they want... in any church they can find that will perform the ceremony. (and there are many churches in America today that will)

So it’s not “illegal” for two men or two women to marry... like people on the left constantly claim on talk radio.

It’s just that such a gay marriage is not defined as marriage by the government.....

And that is how it should be.

Once you open up the pandora’s box with anything outside the “one man, one woman” scenario.... then all sorts of mischief and depravity would be forced onto society.


6 posted on 11/20/2008 5:24:03 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: IbJensen
This is a two-edged sword, as being "black" is the ticket to ride in America. Blacks are invincible and untouchable in the legal sense, and can do most anything, and get away with a lot more than any other race. Civil rights was built that way.

We hear it all now with "new" stuff, like "60 is the new 40", "Blue is the new black", etc. Boil it all down and it comes out to "anything goes"...a trademark of the liberal bent.


7 posted on 11/20/2008 5:26:53 AM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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How are you gonna feel and react when you come home and some old queen is trying to seduce your teenaged son?
I’d be heading to jail cause I’d be shooting the pervert foll of holes, then I’d reload and shoot some more.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 5:27:39 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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then they would want the first gay president. they would paint the black house pink, ect.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:36 AM PST by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservativism got us NOWHERE)
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To: Edit35
Gay people can get married now if they want...

Whatever clergyman or city official performing such an abomination commits mortal sin as he is making a mockery of a sacrament.

10 posted on 11/20/2008 5:33:48 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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To: 09Patriot
...then they would want the first gay president...They may just have him.
11 posted on 11/20/2008 5:34:46 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Too bad. Guns will be outlawed.


12 posted on 11/20/2008 5:35:30 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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To: IbJensen

I know gay people that live their lives quietly and don’t get in anyone’s face. They go about their business, work everyday, keep nice homes, entertain like regular folks - a few of them are in serious long-term relationships - spanning 20 years or more. They do not flaunt themselves, they dress and act like ordinary people. Some of them that I’ve talked to about it - say they are against gay marriage & they cringe when they see gays parading themselves in every perverted way they can imagine. They say it gives the rest of them a bad name.

Now, I definitely think that gay sex is unnatural and a sin. But some of these people I do consider to be friends, they’ve been nice & helpful to me & I care about them & pray for them like I do everyone else. I think sin is sin - same as lying, cheating, stealing, killing, etc. The Lord will judge us all someday & I will come up lacking. Fortunately, Jesus Christ as my saviour has interceded for me on that count.

But these angry gays that you see & read about, that indulge in every perversion one can & cannot imagine - that delight in rubbing it in everyone’s face & have an agenda to “recruit” children into their sick, unhappy lifestyles - these people are SICK! They need to be contained & given psychiatric treatment. We cannot continue to let these perverts set the agenda for what our children are taught & what we have to be exposed to on television, movies, etc.

I’m afraid that until large numbers of parents start pulling their children from the public school systems (and they lose money as a result) - this stuff will just get worse. I know a lot of families feel they have no choice in having to send their kids to these public cesspools - but really - what is more important than your children? I believe that where there is a will, there’s a way - & people have got to start standing up for themselves NOW.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 5:39:50 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: IbJensen

Then I will be an outlaw.


14 posted on 11/20/2008 5:51:34 AM PST by Jaymes
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To: IbJensen
The “gay” lifestyle cuts a person's life expectancy in half, spreads disease, which costs billions of dollars in added health care costs, increases suicide, violence, and depression, and breaks up families. Facts that “gays” want to suppress by calling it “homophobia.”
Anyone who wants more data to use in this struggle can find a little paperback called “Getting it Straight” at www.frc.org.
15 posted on 11/20/2008 5:54:10 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: IbJensen

The Alimentary Canal perversion is Not a cause it is an ABOMINATION as Christ Proclaimed! After 12 years 1.5% of Gays are Married inthe biggest Homosexual Marriage proponent Holland. this is a morrally bankrupt group of Individuals...not heroes as the Liberals want to Proclaim them.. Pray for their Conversion of heart!


16 posted on 11/20/2008 5:57:39 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (The Phillies Parade was awesome!! Did I tell you Phillies are world champions!)
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To: IbJensen

A rock would do.
Even this next govt. can’t outlaw rocks.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 6:12:23 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: alicewonders
Here are people (your typical perversion-affirming public school sex-ed teachers) you wouldn't trust with your car or your credit card, and yet parents will trust them with their kids...?

I must confess, I simply don't get it.

18 posted on 11/20/2008 6:13:39 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: alicewonders
And incidentally, I didn't use the words "typical, perversion-affirming" as a slam against a particular teacher. The way the law is going (the way it IS in places like Massachusetts and California) the teacher has no option: he or she is legally obliged to present homosexual perversion as psychologically normal, physically natural and healthy, and morally unobjectionable.

Anything else is considered a hate crime.

This is our America.

19 posted on 11/20/2008 6:18:10 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: IbJensen
"What Benefits Society?" = "It Takes A Village"

Dennis = Hillary

QED

20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:25:03 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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