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To: jcsjcm
I am really sick of seeing this Certification of Live birth. Even if this was real, it only states that he was registered in the State of Hawaii which was 4 days after he was born. This does not mean he was born in Hawaii. We all want to see the Certificate (not certification) of Live birth.

No, the document states that he was born on the island of Oahu. "Certifications of Live Birth" are legal proof of birth. You might be sick of seeing it but that's probably all you're going to get.

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Good luck with that.

62 posted on 11/17/2008 1:38:41 PM PST by marshmallow (USA: Bailout Nation)
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To: marshmallow
If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Yep, and I think that is exactly what happened.

82 posted on 11/17/2008 2:01:59 PM PST by Krodg
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To: marshmallow

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud.


That is exactly the case.


91 posted on 11/17/2008 2:12:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: marshmallow
If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

And of course Cook County and the State of Illinois and their politicians are known for their stellar trustworthy reputations, right???? Get Real.

If this is a legitimate document, then let him present it in a court of law where, if it has been altered, he will face perjury charges for doing so. But instead he presents it with impunity on a website where gullible idiots fall all over themselves to swallow it.

108 posted on 11/17/2008 2:33:31 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: marshmallow
"Certifications of Live Birth" are legal proof of birth.

Well, here's proof that Obamas "Certificate Of Live Birth" means nothing.

Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.

This is straight from the Hawaii Department Of Health Website

. In other words, the "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on Obama's website, Factcheck.org and the Daily KOS doesn't prove anything, simply because someone born in a foreign country could file for an amended certificate -- click the link, read it for yourself.

Obama's sister Maya was born in Jakarta, Indonesia, but Anna Dunham registered her as "born in Honolulu" shortly after her birth. Maya has a State of Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, just like Obama -- proves nothing.

138 posted on 11/17/2008 4:40:26 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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