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To: wagglebee; xzins
The Whigs couldn't agree on slavery (which, but for the slaughter of 50 million babies, would be the most critical social issue in American history), so the anti-slavery social conservatives left and formed the GOP. Within a few years the Whigs had disappeared and the GOP became the dominant party for decades.

I think your analysis is spot on. A couple things are different though. The 2 dominant political parties have been able to structure election laws in such a way that it gives them a near monopoly. The media only pays attention to a 3rd party when it will benefit the Rats. On the basis of these two factors alone it is easier to push back the "mushy" moderates and take control of the party than to leave and start over.

I think the key to gaining control and keeping it is to control the money. All too often we elect conservatives who then abandon us once they are in power. I think that's because they want to get reelected and the party controls the money. Also, we need aggressive young conservative turks to run the party organization that is responsible for finding candidates.

Finally, on the issue of abortion (the slaughter of innocent life) we need to keep pushing, but change our tactics. IOW, appeal to the concern over the safety of the mother. Abortion clinics should be better regulated, only doctors allowed to perform them, their business structure should be transparent and who their lobbyists are should be publicized.

50 posted on 11/17/2008 6:59:09 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: wmfights
I think the key to gaining control and keeping it is to control the money. All too often we elect conservatives who then abandon us once they are in power. I think that's because they want to get reelected and the party controls the money. Also, we need aggressive young conservative turks to run the party organization that is responsible for finding candidates.

A big part of the problem is we get these people entrenched in Congress. Their job is no longer representing the people who elected them, their job becomes raise money and make and keep certain connections for their next election, especially with Representatives. We need term limits, because these people forget why they were elected, and it becomes all about getting the cash to win in the next election.
56 posted on 11/17/2008 7:25:51 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: wmfights; xzins
I think your analysis is spot on. A couple things are different though. The 2 dominant political parties have been able to structure election laws in such a way that it gives them a near monopoly. The media only pays attention to a 3rd party when it will benefit the Rats. On the basis of these two factors alone it is easier to push back the "mushy" moderates and take control of the party than to leave and start over.

You make some good points; however, I think if several "big name" Republicans left it might be harder to ignore.

All too often we elect conservatives who then abandon us once they are in power.

I think the problem is that we elect people who RAN as conservatives, but we never spent enough time figuring out if they were really committed to conservative principles.

Finally, on the issue of abortion (the slaughter of innocent life) we need to keep pushing, but change our tactics. IOW, appeal to the concern over the safety of the mother. Abortion clinics should be better regulated, only doctors allowed to perform them, their business structure should be transparent and who their lobbyists are should be publicized.

I am unwilling to support policies that essentially say, "do this and THEN you can kill babies."

The reality is most Americans are totally unaware that 50 million babies have been killed since 1973 and that babies continue to be slaughtered at the rate of 150 per hour. If a candidate gets in front of the American people and simply lays out the FACTS about abortion, I think we would see a dramatic shift in public opinion.

59 posted on 11/17/2008 7:41:31 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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