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To: SJackson
Unless the Republican Party ends its self-imposed captivity to social fundamentalists, it will spend a long time in the political wilderness. On Nov. 4, the American people very clearly rejected the politics of demonization and division.

It is clear how Christie Todd Whitman regards social conservatives. She despises them so deeply she cannot even give a fellow Republican to courtesy of a proper appellation, she calls them "social fundamentalists" and obliquely charges them with "demonization." Before the election I wrote that I thought that the real problem for the Republican Party would be to resolve the differences between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. In the context of what the fiscal conservatives must do if there is to be a rapprochement I said this:

Fiscal conservatives, for their part, must go to bat for Christians when they are embattled by the secularists who would rob them of their faith through the arm of government. Fiscal conservatives owe Christian conservatives one more consideration, they must stop their smug condescension and their eye rolling whenever Christians express their faith in public. Consider for example the execrable figure of the son of William F. Buckley Jr. abandoning the McCain/Palin ticket for ill disguised abhorrence of Palin's faith. This is probably the last kind of bigotry that is socially acceptable in America but it must no longer be acceptable among conservatives. Buckley claims that he is a "small government conservative" but I claim that no matter how small his government, he is no conservative at all but something quite alien to us.

It is clear that Whitman is not willing to stop rolling her eyes. I believe that this comes not from her green eye shade conclusions arrived at only after crunching numbers from the last election (which other analysts have crushed and come to exactly the opposite conclusion), but from the great cleft between the right and left in America: abortion. I think Christie Todd Whitman objects to Sarah Palin for one reason only and it has to do with abortion. I think that Whitman's objection to Palin and to social "fundamentalists" is purely visceral and comes out of the abortion issue. I want to Whitman to lose the argument which she makes as she contends for the soul of the Republican Party but I am very glad she is making the argument. It must be made and every body must understand that it has been made. At the end of the day conservatism will have to come to a bedrock understanding of its faith and that can only be done by a Darwinian process which hears out all sides. I had this to say elsewhere in the same post:

There will be finger-pointing and acrimony but that is necessary and good. We must rediscover our soul and that cannot be done without bloodletting.

Speaking of bloodletting, it is absolutely vital that the conservative wing of the party come to a final victory over the moderates or we conservatives simply must leave the party. There will be no better time, we will never have less to lose. We will be in control of most of the elected offices and we will be in solid red states, few though they may be. The moderates will be geographically scattered in occasional congressional seats with some odds and ends in statehouses. They will have their voices in the media and some access to money. Many of them will defect to the Democrat party. Some might become libertarians. But conservatives must get lean and mean and come to a clear understanding of who they are and what they stand for. Moderates can come along but only after capitulation. There is no sense taking stragglers and mutineers along into the wilderness.

Not less important than finding our soul, conservatives must ruthlessly enforce party discipline. That can only come after moderates are reconciled to conservative leadership or have gone their own way. There can be no doctrinal accommodation with moderates. There is nothing more to be gained by compromising principle for a few more votes in the caucus because the caucus will have no power anyway. Conservative power will come from the moral strength of ideas. Eventually, if Obama only perverts and does not subvert the constitutional system, the public will realize the moral corruption of the liberal regime.


41 posted on 11/16/2008 12:10:29 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“Before the election I wrote that I thought that the real problem for the Republican Party would be to resolve the differences between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives.”

Actually that *IS* the issue. The problem is that Christie Whitman is not a conservative at all, but one of those mod-lib Republicans whose party has moved on.

Christie Whitman represents the Elite-Horse Set- Ripon Society WASP former elite Republican. Most of those in that crowd have migrated to full bore liberal Democratism, as evidenced by how thoroughly the hedge fundamentalists (;-) ) and trust fundamentalists (;-) ) or the tri-state northeast US have moved over to Obama. Call it the Lincoln Chaffee vote.

She wants the GOP to be that faint echo that challenges the Democrats on no fundamentals at all.

Honestly, I *wish* we could get them back, but it would have to be by hitting them over the head with “The Federalist” or having a “come to Reagan” moment for them. Diluting our principles to dishwater wont help the GOP brand but make it mud.

I would urge her to put her views in practice by trying to get elected somewhere on it, rather than by lecturing the rest of the party. Her wing of the party is represented by a few liberal country clubbers who have done nothing for the party since 1976 and are about 0.1% of the electorate. As you note, her rhetoric is divisive and counterproductive. It’s indeed BEYOND alarming that you can have a far-left candidate like Obama make enough feelers to sound more prolife than he is by RESPECTING the viewpoint more than she does. That by iteself is more than half the problem. Why can t she be more respectful and mindful of the values of others even in disagreement?

The real moderates/swing voters are much more downscale and pragmatic and we lost their vote due to Bush’s performance in Iraq and the economy and because Obama promised the moon and we didnt counteroffer or debunk his tax-cut lie. Moving off the prolife dime is probably the worst possible advice to give the GOP. That issue alone makes us competitive with a broad swath of voters not interested as much in fiscal conservatism.

“Speaking of bloodletting, it is absolutely vital that the conservative wing of the party come to a final victory over the moderates or we conservatives simply must leave the party.”

I felt that McCain victory would be vital to the nation, but hard on the GOP. I think you will find that it will be surprisingly easy to run out the moderate influence. Perhaps too easy, in that a hard-right GOP image will only cement the Democrat majority.

We will have to be principled and conservative, but also *smart*, *competent* and *listen* to the people. I go back to my “Moderates want competence, not mush” line.
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/11/moderates-want-competence-not-mush.html

If the Democrats become the pandering corrupt patronage left-liberal screwballs, then competent smart conservatives can win back a majority.


85 posted on 11/16/2008 6:37:21 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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