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To: pnh102

You are hopeless and unfortunately completely wrong about everything. Well, this is true Ohio voted with the Dems this year because McCain went to Michigan and said ‘the jobs aren’t coming back’. Can you imagine how they will vote after millions are thrown out of work? If the GOP can not win Ohio, they can not win the White House.

I mention my neighbor so some of you can understand there is a human cost to the manufacturing job losses. The GOP may win a war next week-filibuster, but they will lose the battle in the end. Sadly so will the country. It is in the country’s best interest to have an auto industry.


39 posted on 11/16/2008 12:21:46 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
I mention my neighbor so some of you can understand there is a human cost to the manufacturing job losses. The GOP may win a war next week-filibuster, but they will lose the battle in the end. Sadly so will the country. It is in the country’s best interest to have an auto industry.

While I agree with much of what you say, I worked union for years at several different companies, I have to disagree that if we don't bail out GMC they will totally crash. They will reorganize after declaring Bankruptcy. Some jobs may be lost, true, but most will survive and the company will be stronger. I lost my job after years and years in the lumber industry, our closure was due to environmentalists, not failure to make a profit.

Some people on FR are violently anti-union. Yep, some unions could be better, that is true, but the people who work in them are for the most part nice people. Many of them vote Republican, in the places I worked for about half voted Republican. We did get mad and tried to stop the Union leaders from using our dues to support and promote Democrats, but it didn't work out.

I think the cost of Autos includes many environmental devices and other BS that probably costs as much as, if not more, than the Unions over blown wages and benefits do. I think it is time we clean those out of our manufacturing processes. Many serve no purpose except to control us.

The only thing about green laws is that they effect the foreign manufacturers also, where as extremely high wages and benefits only affect the UAW plants.

I think the rabid demonstration of Union hatred displayed of FR speaks very poorly of the people who indulge in it. I do not support the bailout but not because I wish to see good people thrown out of work, but because I think we need the American companies and that a bailout will finish them off. They need to go Chapter 11 and reorganize. Thanks for listening.

62 posted on 11/16/2008 2:16:13 PM PST by calex59
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To: bronxboy
You are hopeless and unfortunately completely wrong about everything.

Of course I am. I guess I should just go and support entities that work for my defeat.

Can you imagine how they will vote after millions are thrown out of work?

And again, how does that make things any worse than they are now? At least in this scenario, a major Democrat fundraising arm will be cut off.

I mention my neighbor so some of you can understand there is a human cost to the manufacturing job losses.

And again, if the UAW was so concerned with retaining manufacturing jobs in the USA, it wouldn't continually try to kill the companies that sustain it.

It is in the country’s best interest to have an auto industry.

Why do you continue to believe that GM, Ford and Chrysler are the only companies which make cars in the USA when it is not true? No one is going to miss GM, Ford or Chrysler when they are gone because there are vastly superior product offerings made in the USA by US workers working in foreign car company factories.

71 posted on 11/17/2008 12:37:42 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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