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Mary Rose sunk by French cannonball
The Times ^
| 11/15/2008
| Jasper Copping
Posted on 11/15/2008 8:50:59 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
Just wow. Who knew?
/johnny
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posted on
11/15/2008 9:02:00 PM PST
by
JRandomFreeper
(God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
To: bruinbirdman
The French SHOOTING at something and actually HITTING it!
Alors!
Oh- 500 years ago- well, ok-possible.
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posted on
11/15/2008 9:06:51 PM PST
by
ClearBlueSky
(Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
To: JRandomFreeper
Last week these academics tried to tell us General Haig wanted to surrender to the Germans in WWI.
Now this, a French rowboat sank the Mary Rose. Looks like anti-Brit historical deconstruction. What is the motive? UK hasn't switched to the euro?
yitbos
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posted on
11/15/2008 9:07:32 PM PST
by
bruinbirdman
("Those who control language control minds.")
To: bruinbirdman
For almost 500 years, the pending and current presidency of George W. Bush has been blamed for poor seamanship and the fateful intervention of a freak gust of wind which combined to topple the Mary Rose over. Now historians believe the vessel, the pride of Henry VIII's fleet, was actually sunk when Al Gore flushed an eclair doily down his cabin's bidet a fact covered up by the Tudors to save face. I'm just curious about reactions to this. Does that make me a troll?
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To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
11/15/2008 9:19:54 PM PST
by
nralife
(Sarah doesn't know it's a damn show! She thinks it's a damn fight!)
To: indcons
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posted on
11/15/2008 10:12:19 PM PST
by
SmithL
(Drill Dammit!)
To: I see my hands
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posted on
11/15/2008 10:17:09 PM PST
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"You can flush a bidet?" Yes. You can, and I can, and Al Gore has a big fat can.
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To: Cacique
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posted on
11/15/2008 10:56:36 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: bruinbirdman
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posted on
11/15/2008 11:31:37 PM PST
by
jws3sticks
(Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
To: jws3sticks
To: bruinbirdman
“The Mary Rose, which was raised from the seabed in 1982 and remains on public display in Portsmouth, was sunk in 1545, as Henry watched from the shore, during the Battle of The Solent, a clash between the English fleet and a French invasion force. “
The French attempted an invasion of England 43 years before the Spanish Armada? What was that about?
To: Gene Eric
Attack Skiff, if that was the question.
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11/15/2008 11:52:59 PM PST
by
jws3sticks
(Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
To: I see my hands
I remember the first time I saw a bidet... “Hey, mom, there’s a water fountain in the john !” Good thing I got grabbed away a split second later before I took a sip...
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posted on
11/16/2008 12:25:45 AM PST
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
To: ClearBlueSky
"The French SHOOTING at something and actually HITTING it! Alors!"Think of it like a hole in one. Sometimes the lucky strike isn't due to skill as much as the ball simply has to go somewhere on the field and the hole just happened to get in the way. Only our own arrogance tempts us to think it went there, due to our own intentions.
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11/16/2008 12:30:42 AM PST
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: bruinbirdman
To: bruinbirdman
Dubious. Major warship of the time fatally holed and sinks in minutes by the small guns a galley would have carried?
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posted on
11/16/2008 5:56:25 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(rules of governance in a free society: mind your own business, keep your hands to yourself - PJ O'R)
To: bruinbirdman
A single cannonshot at the waterline would be extremely unlikely to sink a vessel of this size. As the article points out, skeletons with carpenter’s tools were found low in the ship. This is because this was their battle station for hundreds of years in the Royal Navy - they were placed there to make emergency repairs to the ship’s hull and would have been hard at work if such a hole had appeared.
Naval battles of this era were usually indecisive because neither side had the firepower or tactical skills to destroy an enemy’s fleet. Ships frequently were dismasted or had their rigging cut to pieces, but sinking - not so much. I think that the traditional explanation remains more likely, absent better evidence than has been presented here.
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