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To: solfour
I wonder if this birthplace question, which won't go away, is why Obama, the Kenyan, has looked so distracted lately.

This thread has gone on for about 20 hours already. A lot of fascinating points have been made, and the argumentation has been heavy. While this thread may still have lots of life left in it (hope so), can most of us come to some preliminary conclusions?

For example

  1. Obama not being open about his original certificate of live birth is, in and of itself, very discouraging.
  2. It is also divisive, and is beginning to form cracks in civil society.
  3. It shows that Obama's relation with the public is not as open and forthcoming as Americans expect from our leaders.
  4. Obama's lack of documentation for his career to date become more disturbing in light of the COLB question.
  5. BHO's willingness to fight in court against releasing his COLB claiming the contents may embarrass him, raises many questions about the character of Obama himself, in addition to whatever is in the COLB.
  6. We are still unsure if his true current name is Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama.
There are lots of other statements we can agree or disagree on (even the ones above). But after this much effort, our understanding has moved forward, and it would be nice to sum up where we have got to so far.


800 posted on 11/15/2008 4:17:18 PM PST by magooey (Obama/Soetoro could be the demagogue the Founding Fathers were waiting for)
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To: magooey

That is a good list so far. I think we also add that the MSM is protecting him because that in itself is huge!


802 posted on 11/15/2008 4:21:04 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: magooey

Additionally, we have concerns about his secretiveness regarding all aspects of his past, including his Columbia records, writings, client lists, etc. All things he’s demanding from the people desiring a job in his administration. Why not ask Obama to respond to his own application prior to taking the highest office in the land?

There is no logical reason for him to lack a willingness to be transparent with the American people regarding his own past life and simultaneously to expect so much from those who plan to work for him; except the arrogance of one who believes himself entitled to a position by virtue of his own superiority over everyone else—or, in other words, the ideal markings of a tyrannical, despotic, fascist dictator for whom laws have no application.


837 posted on 11/15/2008 4:59:51 PM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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