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To: RedRightReturn

Whoa there - bringing me and other Catholics into the abortion issue by telling us that if someone voted for Obozo then they cannot receive Communion is not political! Give me a break. Playing on this to trump what is law (granted I don’t support abortion but ummm last I checked it’s a law - unfortunate that it is). So punishing Catholics is the way to somehow make a stand? How about getting to a better solution - acknowledging that people have sex that are not married and working to address this rampaging issue. See f’ing before marriage last I checked led to a lot of pregnancies. So let’s have the Church put the horse before the cart on this one.


21 posted on 11/14/2008 6:43:36 AM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: GerardKempf
So punishing Catholics is the way to somehow make a stand?

It's not a punishment ... it's a protection. See my previous post.

23 posted on 11/14/2008 6:57:43 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: GerardKempf

People bring themselves into the abortion issue when they, as Catholics, vote for a candidate who believes in abortion. That action (vote) directly results in the death of children. The Catholic Church believes you are responsible for that action. The Catholic Church is not on trial, Catholics are. You can pick and choose what you believe, (free choice) but you have to answer to God for those choices.


30 posted on 11/14/2008 7:48:33 AM PST by Ell
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To: GerardKempf
Whoa there - bringing me and other Catholics into the abortion issue by telling us that if someone voted for Obozo then they cannot receive Communion is not political! Give me a break. Playing on this to trump what is law (granted I don’t support abortion but ummm last I checked it’s a law - unfortunate that it is). So punishing Catholics is the way to somehow make a stand? How about getting to a better solution - acknowledging that people have sex that are not married and working to address this rampaging issue. See f’ing before marriage last I checked led to a lot of pregnancies. So let’s have the Church put the horse before the cart on this one.

Three points:

1. Contrary to some people's opinion, there are consequences to our choices. You do the wrong thing, you should be punished, do the right thing you should be praised.
2. God is not only a God of Love, he is a God of Justice. In fact, you cannot have Love, without Justice, they go hand in hand.
3. Our political choices, just like our choices to obey/disobey God concerning abortion or those who whole-heartedly support abortion are still our choices and are still judged by God. You can put the adjective "Political" before the action or choice, but it is still your choice and God makes no difference between those that are Political or not. You will be judged according to your works.
33 posted on 11/14/2008 8:06:59 AM PST by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: GerardKempf
bringing me and other Catholics into the abortion issue by telling us that if someone voted for Obozo then they cannot receive Communion is not political!

Not political at all. Being Catholic means believing in its tenets. Humanae Vitae is pretty clear. Calling oneself Catholic doesn't make one a Catholic (CINO).

Supporting a candidate who intentionally supports killing the unborn is anti-Catholic and as such the individual should not receive Communion. That's not a punishment if one doesn't believe what the Church teaches.

35 posted on 11/14/2008 8:18:46 AM PST by Neverforget01
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To: GerardKempf
You can not be a Catholic and a Rat.

Too many conflicts.

Abortion is the greatest.

The Rat Catholic voters (sic) are responsible for Clinton, Obama, the dozens of ugly and atheistic things that the Rats have visited on our nation, and above all, they are responsible for the millions of innocent aborted humans.

Rat Catholics try to pretend that they have nothing to do with abortion, and nothing to do with all the corruption and evil the Rats have brought us, but they are sadly mistaken and will be taken to task for it.

Moreover, if Catholic Rats would stop voting for liberal Rat politicians, they would not get elected.

Their demographic puts liberal Rat POTUSES, Senators, Congressmen, Governors, etc., over the top EVERY ELECTION.

They are responsible, no way around it.

And every Catholic priest from the Pope on down should have been saying this to their parishes, unceasingly, since 1966 or whenever this country started going down the tubes morally.

But they didn't. They sided with the Rats instead of with God.

It is now dawning on them what they have done.

36 posted on 11/14/2008 8:38:50 AM PST by caddie
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