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Finally, a Religious Leader with Guts
Townhall.com ^ | November 14, 2008 | Mike Gallagher

Posted on 11/14/2008 5:11:41 AM PST by Kaslin

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the Catholic church does not use the term Reverend. Instead of Rev. Jay Scott Newman it should be Father Jay Scott Newman
1 posted on 11/14/2008 5:11:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He’ll be “apologizing” within a week.


2 posted on 11/14/2008 5:13:06 AM PST by WayneS (HELP! My beloved Commonwealth is becoming MARYLAND!)
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To: narses

I think you will enjoy this


3 posted on 11/14/2008 5:13:52 AM PST by Kaslin (0bama will not be my President)
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“Reverend,” “Father,” why use either? But that’s not the subject here.

Are we to have the impression that this man is the only one, or one of only a few who openly takes such a stand?

I could drive you through the Smokey and Blue Ridge Mountains, and to many other regions around the States where Preachers have have taken and are taking an open stand, opening the Bible, and telling people what is happening in this Obama guy, and what is happening to our country. A lot of those folks are among the many stocking up on arms.

Perhaps we should take this to mean that “finally” a liturgical-style clergyman has taken such an open stand.


4 posted on 11/14/2008 5:23:01 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Kaslin

Some priests DO use the term Rev....I had one who used the term VERY REV. ......


5 posted on 11/14/2008 5:29:43 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Now is the time for the Vatican to have the same temerity this priest did and speak the truth of Scripture and condemn those that voted for any abortion rights candidate. Only when the Vatican speaks will this priest’s stance resonate with Catholics throughout this world.


6 posted on 11/14/2008 5:35:10 AM PST by gscc
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No, the time for the Vatican and the Catholic Church to speak out was a long time ago. I resent the fact that the “leaders” have waited until now. Maybe better late than never?


7 posted on 11/14/2008 5:44:05 AM PST by browniexyz
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Our weekly bulletin list our priests with Rev preceeding their names.

On topic, I was very disappointed with our (Catholic) church this election cycle. The Sunday before the elections, I knew the sermon wouldn't contain the name of the candidate Catholics should support, but I expected to at least hear some words about the sanctity of life, a Catholic's duty to live their faith in the public arena, etc... What did we get? A guest priest from an inner-city parish speaking in broken English, asking for donations to support his parish.

Don't get me wrong. We always support our sister parish as generously as possible. But this wasn't the time. This was the week to motivate Catholics into voting their faith.

Very disappointing.
8 posted on 11/14/2008 5:46:47 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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Instead of Rev. Jay Scott Newman it should be Father Jay Scott Newman

If you want to get technical, it should never be Rev. Jay Scott Newman for any denomination. It should be The Rev. Jay Scott Newman, which would be appropriate in this case, though The Rev. Fr. Jay Scott Newman would be best.

9 posted on 11/14/2008 5:48:20 AM PST by trad_anglican
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I waited in a long line to vote. I noticed a teacher working the lines with Obama pin proudly displayed on her jacket. She is a long time member of the Catholic church.
I asked her in front of everyone how she could support Obama and be a Catholic considering his views on abortion. She just smiled. Several people thanked me for speaking up.
They said if it were not for Catholics breaking ranks on abortion matters things may be different. They may be correct.


10 posted on 11/14/2008 5:59:33 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: Kaslin

Nope - this is why Catholic attendance by center-rights has decreased dramatically, while parishes/schools are being closed at record pace, why lawsuits against the church have skyrocketed and why contributions are at it’s lowest (even before the economy woes). See it’s us center-rights in the Catholic church that are the money of the church, not the far right or the left. So unless the church changes and has to scrounge for loose cannons like this guy or immigrants to fill its pulpits then the church will continue to wither here in the US. Facts are facts - keep religion (telling someone they cannot receive Communion) out of politics.


11 posted on 11/14/2008 6:00:17 AM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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How about sending Jay Scott Newman a "thank you"note!
12 posted on 11/14/2008 6:03:49 AM PST by pointsal
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Oh, they bastardized his quote. It’s PERFECT:

supporting [0bama] “constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil”


13 posted on 11/14/2008 6:04:06 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: GerardKempf

GK,

If you think the Catholic Church should water-down its doctrine and trade its integrity for revenue, I assert that you are sadly mistaken and questionably Catholic.

Perhaps another center-right Christian faith is more appropriate for you.

Regards,
Red


14 posted on 11/14/2008 6:10:45 AM PST by RedRightReturn (Things are never as easy, as hard, as good, or as bad as they seem...)
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To: GerardKempf

So the Church should overlook the killing of the unborn? If they don’t stand up for life, who will? America is morally adrift. It is not for the Church to “change” because of this.


15 posted on 11/14/2008 6:14:28 AM PST by CASchack
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the Catholic church does not use the term Reverend

Officially, yes, it does. We don't say it, but it's on all the documentation.

16 posted on 11/14/2008 6:25:50 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
The Sunday before the elections, I knew the sermon wouldn't contain the name of the candidate Catholics should support, but I expected to at least hear some words about the sanctity of life, a Catholic's duty to live their faith in the public arena, etc... What did we get? A guest priest from an inner-city parish speaking in broken English, asking for donations to support his parish.

It was the Feast of All Souls. You shouldn't have even had that. All Souls in my parish is almost a solemnity.

[exasperated sigh out of Des] How are the faithful supposed to learn the faith if THE CLERGY WON'T TEACH IT!!!!!!

Rant off.

17 posted on 11/14/2008 6:29:50 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: GerardKempf
If center-rights are not attending over life and death issues regarding morals and sin, Christ and the Faith aren't the center of their lives. And they can take their $$$ with them. God will provide. He always does.
18 posted on 11/14/2008 6:33:16 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: GerardKempf

So you are suggesting that the Catholic church should side-step the Bible, tradition and morality so that it can remain popular and keep its coffers full?

No thanks.


19 posted on 11/14/2008 6:34:17 AM PST by kidd
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To: GerardKempf

Some may have considered Jesus Christ a “loose canon”.


20 posted on 11/14/2008 6:36:43 AM PST by Ell
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