[FrdmLvr]

With all The Obamafuhrer has to do, I don’t think he’ll want to get in to a second amendment quagmire, it would stir the conservative base too much. And, it would take too long. I do think, however, he’ll just quietly put regulations on the manufacture, import, and sale of ammo of all kinds. Watch for that, and stock up on ammo. And keep your powder dry.

[TheConservativeParty]

Greetings FrdmLvr, Did that last week and the ammo guy was swamped. Phones ringing, customers everywhere. Hey if Nobama makes it tough to get ammo, what good is an empty gun, right? Might as well carry a rock. From my cold dead hands...

[The Duke]

Question: What is the typical shelf life for ammunition?

[El Gato]

, I don’t think he’ll want to get in to a second amendment quagmire, it would stir the conservative base too much. And, it would take too long

Well that's not what his Change.gov site said, before it's agenda section was takend down yesterday.

It said:

* Address Gun Violence in Cities:
As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

Repeal the Tihart amendment, means give anti-gun politicians access to gun trace data, for use against legitimate gun dealers, even those well outside their jurisdiction.

The Assault Weapons ban will be new and improved, and will not have the "Two characteristics" test which allowed for minor cosmetic changes to various AR and AK type rifles/carbines. In fact there is a bill, HR 1022 in Congress now, which will only have to be refiled on January 5th. It defines assault weapon as:

The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:

`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;
`(ii) AR-10;
`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR;
`(iv) AR70;
`(v) Calico Liberty;
`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;
`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;
`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;
`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;
`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
`(xi) M1 Carbine;
`(xii) Saiga;
`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;
`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;
`(xv) SLG 95;
`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;
`(xvii) Steyr AUG;
`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;
`(xix) Tavor;
`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or
`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Calico M-110;
`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;
`(iii) Olympic Arms OA;
`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or
`(v) Uzi.
`(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Armscor 30 BG;
`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;
`(iii) Striker 12; or
`(iv) Streetsweeper.
`(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a pistol grip;
`(iv) a forward grip; or
`(v) a barrel shroud.

`(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has--

`(i) a second pistol grip;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a barrel shroud; or
`(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.
`(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

`(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--

`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;v `(ii) a pistol grip;
`(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
`(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
`(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
`(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L).
`(K) A conversion kit.
`(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

The definitions of "pistol grip" and "Barrel shroud" are such that essentially all semi-automatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns would be banned.

But as you can see their main emphasis is on rifles. The Full capacity magazine ban in there too.

Fifty caliber sniper rifles are covered by another law that will also need to be refiled, S. 1331

[Atchafalaya]

Congress, Congress, Congress will jump in with both feet anti-gun from day one...and the Dali Bama will sign anything they pass...that is his job description!

[mad_as_he$$]

Well you would be wrong. The O's website "change.gov" had a paragraph about taking guns until Tom Gresham started talking about it on his show. It was immediately pulled down. Google has a cache of it.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:lZ5nLB1m2TMJ:www.change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/+change.gov+guns&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[FTL]

With all The Obamafuhrer has to do, I don’t think he’ll want to get in to a second amendment quagmire, it would stir the conservative base too much. And, it would take too long. I do think, however, he’ll just quietly put regulations on the manufacture, import, and sale of ammo of all kinds. Watch for that, and stock up on ammo. And keep your powder dry.

That's the biggest threat and problem. The "quiet regulations" are just as effective for infringing on your rights as head on confrontations, but much easier to do. We have let them chip away for years.

Remember - government is just a bunch of your fellow neighbors from around the land who think they are far better than you and far smarter than you. They gather together in places you agree to help pay for and run, where they then proclaim whatever they want and demand that you to agree to it and go along with it.

If you don't agree, then another group of your neighbors who are gathered together with arms and equipment that you agree to pay for will come to seize you and commit violence upon your person, possessions and family. These are the government enforcers.

Liberals are never satisfied with power and always want more. The Left has a long history around the world as a political ideology and movement based on controlling people and forcing them to bend to their will. In short - it is tyranny.

[GOPJ]

And, it would take too long. I do think, however, he’ll just quietly put regulations on the manufacture, import, and sale of ammo of all kinds. Watch for that, and stock up on ammo.

What kinds of guns are easy to made ammunition for? Any ideas?