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What do the election results mean to conservatives?
American Thinker ^ | November 09, 2008 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 11/09/2008 5:08:10 AM PST by vietvet67

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To: Erik Latranyi

Yup. Obama was our wake up call.

Hopefully we’ll answer the phone..


21 posted on 11/09/2008 5:29:16 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

It means that conservatives should cultivate, encourage, and if need be educate Gov. Palin. The country will call on her, and she will respond. In the meantime, dems, Libs, and the MSM won’t forget her. They’ll run at least one story a day in which she’s portrayed as a dolt or worse. Clearly the idea is to make her such an object of disgust that she won’t dare surface on the national stage again, and we have to make sure that doesn’t happen.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 5:30:41 AM PST by hershey
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To: vietvet67

I read a breakdown of the election which surveyed people’s stands on issues and how they broke.

Those opposed to the Iraq War broke 9 to 1 for Obama.

Even people concerned about the economy split their votes pretty closely.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 5:31:13 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Edgar3

Friends in New Zealand are celebrating, telling me
“New Zealand got it right, U.S. got it wrong!”
NO MORE HELEN!


24 posted on 11/09/2008 5:31:50 AM PST by AMNZ
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To: vietvet67

If it doesn’t end up killing us, it should make us stronger.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 5:31:50 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: vietvet67

2010 will seem to be a century away.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 5:32:12 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros would not make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: vietvet67
When Republican "leaders" like Trent Lott sabotaged the impeachment trial of a sitting president because they feared political fallout, conservatives cringed.

Political fallout ?!?!? What better political opportunity is there than to cast out a president who is a member of the opposition?

27 posted on 11/09/2008 5:32:24 AM PST by relictele
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To: I_Like_Spam

We MUST fix the Republican primaries -

1. They MUST be closed so that we alone control our destiny.

2. The early ones CANNOT be held in traditionally Liberal/Democrat states.

Otherwise we will get middle-of-the-road or worse candidates. And we’ve seen how successful RINOs are for us. Not! We need to purge the Republican Party and rid ourselves of the enemy within


28 posted on 11/09/2008 5:33:29 AM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: Ann Archy

“What does the election mean for conservatives (or the GOP)?”

It means, as shallow as it sounds, that we MUST put forth ONLY articulate candidates who are interesting, dynamic, and can string two sentences together while explaining the benefits to America from strong conservatism.

All McCain said over and over and over is “Sen. Obama is liberal ....” or some such inane statement which NO ONE CARES about... not even a staunch conservative like me.

No one even knows what “liberal” means.... or “conservative” for that matter.

Voters didn’t reject the GOP because of conservatism.

They rejected the idea of a boring, frumpy, nasal-sounding, short (shallow but true), 72-year-old geezer who has been in Washington and on our TVs for so long everyone is bored to tears.

With McCain at the top of the ticket, ALL REPUBLICANS down the line were tagged with being loser boring same old same old candidates.

The GOP has a baaaad habit of giving deference to the oldsters in the party.... instead of allowing the young, strong dynamic candidates to step up to the plate.

It goes back to our conservative cultural upbringing in which we respect age, unlike liberal Democrats who laugh at and deride older folks.

Well, in national politics America DOES need a younger leader with pizazz .... no more BobDole’s or JohnMcCain’s.

Analysis Over....


29 posted on 11/09/2008 5:36:04 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: libertylover
I’m thinking of all those guys who walk around having to hold their pants up with one hand and vote for Obama with the other.

I saw a woman leading her son into my polling place. He's one of those people who wear slippers all the time. Clearly mentally challenged. I guarantee he didn't vote for McCain.

30 posted on 11/09/2008 5:37:07 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: vietvet67

I believe there were some soft conservatives, people who have basic conservative idesa, who did indeed vote for Obama. They weren’t trying to betray a conservative ideology they simply looked at the alternatives and realized Gov Palin was the only one and she was running for VP. She is in fact the person I voted for and would willingly vote for her again or Gov Jindal.
That is the point of the piece, we have to support the true conservative, we have to find those people willing to lead, not necessarily another Reagan or a Goldwater, but a true conservative who puts the country and freedom ahead of everything else.
The facts are that Obama won because conservative either voted for him or stayed home to avoid voting for McCain, a de-facto vote for Obama, our task now is to give those people someone to believe in.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 5:39:40 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: NCjim
I am all for your ideas but how do we get the terminally ingorant leader types to go along with them?
32 posted on 11/09/2008 5:40:18 AM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: Just A Nobody

I’m pretty sure they really mean Republicans when they say conservative since they prefer to lump us all together.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 5:41:31 AM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: Ann Archy; vietvet67

RE “Name ONE REAL conservative that voted for the MARXIST?? Just ONE”

I voted fot McC one hour before poll closed but knew he lost and was relieved . Our only choice as a party R cannot keep going on down the path GWB has taken us with federal power, federal spending, borrowing, takeovers, and the stimulus welfare checks. He as leader was killing ANY conservative ideals and demoralizing us daily.

On the other side Pelosi Obama are the masters of cynical power politics. In 1995 republicans tried to fix things, democrats demonized Newt for deficit fixing bills, and now take credit for the Clinton economy and balanced budget. Pelosi took congress in 07 like with 95 and tried to do very little on purpose, send GWB huge spending bills loaded with crap, get him to sign them, blame them as part of Bush economy, deficit, but take credit for any handouts .

You see? We need to:

1) Clean house , principled votes, strategy
2) master cynical politics to lower dems approval(ever hear Bush say Pelosi economy???). I have a number of ideas on this.
3) Positive vision, what we will fix, what we offer


34 posted on 11/09/2008 5:42:31 AM PST by sickoflibs ( Where were McCain's moderates and illegals on election day?)
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To: vietvet67

Ronald Reagan was one in a million. But while he allowed a social conservative platform, he himself never really advocated a social conservative position.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 5:42:59 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: wally_bert

That is indeed a challenge, and will be impossible unless we finally decide to win. I am praying that the ‘leaders’ of our Party will grow some. We need more fresh air like Palin but it will be an uphill battle. Just look at what the Party is doing to her - no wonder good candidates just say “no thank you”.


36 posted on 11/09/2008 5:44:34 AM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: vietvet67

Yup. Obama was our wake up call.

Hopefully we’ll answer the phone..

Is it 3am?

37 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:51 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

I agree, this is pretty much exactly what happened. McCain was not a good speaker at all and didn’t articulate why his stances were good for Americans. In 2000 Bush ran on a really conservative platform (no war, budget responsibility, lower taxes) and people really liked it, unfortunatly events didn’t quite turn out that he could follow through on his platform, but it would still have resonated with people in this cycle (Ron Paul ran on that platform but got sidelined by the MSM, he still had a lot of support among the grass roots though, I maintain that if it had been a younger, better looking man (or woman for that matter) running on that platform you’d have a different election result today). The Republican Party needs leadership that can actually get the point across to the people, not an old man who fumbled his way through the election cycle losing support every time he opened his mouth.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:56 AM PST by bankcritic (Never spend your money before you have it. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ann Archy
Name ONE REAL conservative that voted for the MARXIST?? Just ONE.

I think this is a great article. Your rhetorical question exposes the one misstatement in it. It appears that many people who identified themselves as conservatives did in fact vote for "the MARXIST." These are probably the same people who voted for Reagan because he was likable and witty. These are the undecided voters that must be persuaded every year.

The author made the point that we must choose leaders who are committed conservatives. The corollary is that, if we are to win, we need to find a conservative who is likable and charismatic as well. This is a sad fact.

39 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:24 AM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: vietvet67
'What do the election results mean to conservatives?'

Uh.. Buy more guns and ammo.

(do I get a Gold Star now?)

40 posted on 11/09/2008 5:51:20 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Saul Alinsky. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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