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To: Crim; kcvl

THANK YOU FOR SHOUTING. IT MAKES YOUR POINT SO MUCH MORE COMPELLING.

Now, I know there were two incidents, now that you HAVE SHOUTED IT AT ME SO EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR DOING THAT. However, I think the fact that kcvl and I (neither one of us a dummy, for sure) couldn’t figure out what the heck you were saying indicates that we’re not the problem. No big deal, but nothing to shout about.

Were there two incidents?

Yes.

Did the Secret Service investigate both of them?

Yes.

Did they find that what you and Dana Milbank (always a good source!) say happened didn’t actually happen?

Yes. Here are two sources that say so, and the second one even mentions other witnesses who say the man said “Tell ‘em”:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/10/16/kill_him/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/story/secret-service-discounts-any-threat-in-kill-him-shout/

I would also note that “tell it” might also sound like “Kill him” to some people.

So, despite all your shouting, I can still believe you who heard it once via television or the careful review of the Secret Service combined with witnesses who were present. I choose the Secret Service. Are you still planning to act outraged about that, or can we part on reasonable terms?


294 posted on 11/09/2008 11:44:24 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It's time to turn about, like Sheridan at Cedar Creek. Let's punch them out of their boots!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Ok...sorry for yelling...this is YOUR article you posted as “proof” that no one yelled “kill him “ in florida:

First and third paragraph....read carfully..


A caller to the Tribune has confirmed hearing a shout of “Kill him” from a crowd member at a Sarah Palin rally in Clearwater on Monday, but the U.S. Secret Service says it has not found any indication that a threat toward Barack Obama was intended.

After a Tampa Tribune story on the incident in Friday’s paper, several attendees from the rally called the Tribune to describe what they knew about it.

One woman who was standing near the traveling press gallery, the location of the reporter who wrote about the incident, said she heard the shout of “Kill him” from a man close to her, but that it appeared to refer to William Ayers, not Obama.

At the time of the incident, Palin was criticizing Obama for his relationship with Ayers, a former anti-Vietnam War radical who’s now a neighbor and political supporter of Obama.

The caller who confirmed the shout left a name but no phone number in two voice-mail messages to the Tribune, and couldn’t be located for further comment.

Two other callers, who said they were standing in a part of the crowd away from the apparent location of the incident, said they heard a man near them shout, “Tell ‘em,” which could have been mistaken for “Kill him,” at the time of the incident.

The shout isn’t audible on television recordings of the event, which use a sound system connected to the speaker’s microphone and pick up little of the crowd sound. The local press gallery was located some distance away from the traveling press and the apparent site of the incident.

Reporter Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, who was in the traveling press gallery, reported the incident in a story Oct. 7. In interviews following his story, he said the shout could have been a reference to Ayers, not Obama.

In his story, Milbank also said crowd members near his location taunted reporters as they arrived, “hurled obscenities at a camera crew,” and that one person shouted a racial epithet, “Sit down, boy,” at a black broadcast crew member.

The rally attendee near Milbank’s location said in her voice-mail messages that there were back-and-forth comments between the crowd and the reporters, but denied that obscenities or the word “boy” were used.


Ok...they investigated both...but found no “kill him” in PA...

AND that the “kill him” in florida was directed at ares not obama...

Right form your own article...

as I said...

I dont know why they are claiming it’s inaudable on the tape...as I clearly heard it also...

Right after Palin said ayres had bombed the pentagon...

The guy yells “kill him”

IMHO..kill him (ayres) is the correct responce anyways.


308 posted on 11/09/2008 12:49:34 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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